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Old Jul 24, 2011, 8:57 AM   #1
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I have been on flickr, so i even want to start photography.

Anyways i want a DSLR (beginner), to take photos on vacation, family pictures
I will be taking photographs in LOW LIGHT too. And a few videos like if i take of the Eiffel tower or when cutting a bday cake or a few wedding ones.

The Camera should be lower than $1000 with kit-lens, and i want to get a 50mm lens for low light if thats good.

I can only buy Nikon and Canon (there only available in my country).

I have looked into Nikon D5100 and Canon T3i, problem is everyone advices D5100 however the D5100 video has that noise of AF during video. while the T3i has not that gr8 performance in low light, or will canon 50mm lens make it better???

Its my first DSLR and i want to get into photography i want to learn different types of settings. TO GROW WITH MY CAMERA THAT IS.

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PS i was leaning towards D5100 due to the photos coming out better, but the video AF annoys me! ugh they feel both good in my hands HELP!!
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PS i was leaning towards D5100 due to the photos coming out better, but the video AF annoys me! ugh they feel both good in my hands HELP!!
Video on a DSLR is about as handy as a souffle maker on a roller coaster. However, if you are committed to that notion, you should get an external mic for it. If you do that, you shouldn't have a problem with noise from the lens focusing motor. FWIW
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I don't understand why someone doesn't put a second mic inside the camera body to cancel out the noises that the camera makes itself.
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With HD, the canon though it does not have AF is the better HD camera, that is what pro's using dslr for HD uses, canon. They have all the pro features that is need for video, and AF is not something that they use often. Also the canon has a very nice digital zoom feature, that actually works well

With the low light ability of the T3i/600D vs the d5100. They are very close, neither camera are great pass 3200iso. As the canon will keep more details with more noise, the nikon will reduce the noise but will loose details also. Pick you poison on that one. You can compare for yourself on image resources. Not a world do difference really at high iso.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

Now lets go to the 50mm lens. The canon has the 50 1.8, and it work on all canon bodies for 120 dollars, as I do not know what the price are in your country. The nikon you have the 125 dollar AF 50 1.8 that will not focus on the D5100 body as it does not have an AF motor. But you can get the new AF-2 50 1.8 for 270 dollar. It is a very nice lens.

But with that in mind, the d5100 sells for 890 US dollars with the kit lens, so adding the AF-s 50 1.8 will put you over your budget by a good amount. Almost 200 dollars. The canon t3i/600d sells for 850 dollars, and with the 50 1.8 you will be just under you 1000 limit.

They are both good camera, but if you are going to do hd, the canon is the better option. Go take a look at the divx forums about dslr HD, canon is the leader in that department by a large margin. For still photos, they are so close, that it comes down to personal preference.
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Hi you dont say if you own a camera now, but the advice I always give is when you buy a SDLR you buying into a system so check what your needs are and that the system you are looking at will be able to support it. Canon and Nikon have the largest stock of lenses so it shouldnt be a problem. Next get a short list and go and try them. Lat thing to think of is a SDLR isnt a magic camera you will have to learn how to use it.
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..But with that in mind, the d5100 sells for 890 US dollars with the kit lens, so adding the AF-s 50 1.8 will put you over your budget by a good amount. Almost 200 dollars. The Canon t3i/600d sells for 850 dollars, and with the 50 1.8 you will be just under you 1000 limit.
I dunno about elsewhere, but the Nikon D5100 kit is $50 lower than the T3i kit in the US when I check reputable retailers. For example:

Current prices at B&H show the Canon T3i with the 18-55mm kit lens at $849.99 ($899.99 - $50 instant savings).
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...i_Digital.html

Current prices at B&H show the Nikon D5100 with the 18-55mm kit lens at $799.99 ($849.99 - $50 instant savings -- see price in cart).
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...LR_Camera.html

A 50mm lens with AF-S for the Nikon would cost more though (currently $219 for the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AF-S) compared to the Canon (currently $119 for the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II AF lens)

Canon lens:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0mm_f_1_8.html

Nikon lens:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...mm_f_1_8G.html

So (since the Nikkor 50mm lens is more), with current prices after instant savings, you'd pay about $50 more for the Nikon D5000 with the 18-55mm kit lens and 50mm f/1.8 AF-S lens; as compared to the Canon T3i with a 18-55mm kit lens and 50mm f/1.8 II AF lens.
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 10:00 AM   #7
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Thanks For the replies i own a point and shoot, and i am buying a DSLR to learn. I shortlisted to D5100 and 600D but in my country 60D is only about $100 more.
While the D5100 is $200 cheaper than the 600D without lens though. should i go for the 60D?? If nikon D7000 any1 advices its $600 more than 60D.
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By my lights, either camera would be wonderful. Buy the one you prefer, and then you, too, can become a fanboy...
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That is with the US rebates, but I am going with no rebate prices as the OP is not in the US. In Europe and in Germany for instant, the nikon is more then the canon. And no rebates like canon usa or nikon usa are running. And nikon lenses are more expensive in Europe in general.

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I dunno about elsewhere, but the Nikon D5100 kit is $50 lower than the T3i kit in the US when I check reputable retailers. For example:

Current prices at B&H show the Canon T3i with the 18-55mm kit lens at $849.99 ($899.99 - $50 instant savings).
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...i_Digital.html

Current prices at B&H show the Nikon D5100 with the 18-55mm kit lens at $799.99 ($849.99 - $50 instant savings -- see price in cart).
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...LR_Camera.html

A 50mm lens with AF-S for the Nikon would cost more though (currently $219 for the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 AF-S) compared to the Canon (currently $119 for the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II AF lens)

Canon lens:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0mm_f_1_8.html

Nikon lens:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...mm_f_1_8G.html

So (since the Nikkor 50mm lens is more), with current prices after instant savings, you'd pay about $50 more for the Nikon D5000 with the 18-55mm kit lens and 50mm f/1.8 AF-S lens; as compared to the Canon T3i with a 18-55mm kit lens and 50mm f/1.8 II AF lens.
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Thanks For the replies i own a point and shoot, and i am buying a DSLR to learn. I shortlisted to D5100 and 600D but in my country 60D is only about $100 more.
While the D5100 is $200 cheaper than the 600D without lens though. should i go for the 60D?? If nikon D7000 any1 advices its $600 more than 60D.
The 60D is allot better camera then both the d5100 and the 600D. Now with the d7000 vs then 60d, you get a better value with the canon. The d7000 is a paper tiger, on paper it looks better then the 60d. But when you shoot it in the real world they are very even. The canon is the better action camera, while it will shoot 50 shots before shutter lag at 5.3fps. The nikon can only shoot about 16 shots at 6.3fps so you get 2.5 second before the camera shows to 1fps with the buffer lag. And having 2 sd cards dose not help with getting a longer burst rate. The AF systems is about equal. They both have 9 cross type AF points. And the canon is slightly faster with AF testing by couple of camera mags.

If you can afford the extra 100 dollars, the 60D is a lot better choice then either the d5100 or the 600d. Well worth the money.
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