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Old Aug 10, 2011, 9:40 AM   #11
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TCav,
I am confused a bit. The aperture range is 2.8 to f22
I don't know anything about the Non-CPU Lens Data
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Old Aug 10, 2011, 3:44 PM   #12
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TCav,
I am confused a bit. The aperture range is 2.8 to f22
I don't know anything about the Non-CPU Lens Data
All you need to report is the maximum aperture. That would be f/2.8.
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Old Aug 10, 2011, 3:53 PM   #13
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BTW, if your Tokina AT-X 35-70 1:2.8 is a manual focusl lens, it will work as well on a D5100 as it will on a D90. The only real benifit you'd get when using it on a D7000 would be:
  • The camera would record the focal length and aperture in the EXIF data if you entered the focal length and maximum aperture via the Non-CPU Lens Data Menu.
  • The camera would be able to control the power-zoom on an external flash if you entered the focal length via the Non-CPU Lens Data Menu. (... but only the focal length you entered for the zoom lens, so for a zoom lens, you might need to enter the same lens multiple times, each with a different focal length.)
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While great if the 35-70 works, there is another issue where you may want a 2nd (different) lens anyway. The 35-70 was originally designed for full frame 35mm and represented a range of "beginning" wide angle to "beginning" portrait. When placing on a crop body, like the D90 or D7000, it is still physically 35-70, but the FOV (field of view) shifts to 52-105. You are essentially giving up wide angle capability as the view range shifts to "normal" and "mid-portrait". Other characteristics of the lens - constant f2.8, telephoto compression and DOF, etc - remain unchanged as it is a 35-70 lens and are not multiplied by the 1.5 crop factor.

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Old Aug 11, 2011, 9:14 AM   #15
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Thanks All............I am thinking what a "PITB" I am giving myself frustration on going cheap.
I will take my lens down to a Camera Store and see how it would work on a camera.
Then I will know what everyone is saying............Thank You for your help.....Bob
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Excellent idea!
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If you've got a budget of $900 you'd be better off just getting the camera
and lens together, why mess around...?

Nikon D90 Digital SLR Camera Body - Refurbished by Nikon U.S.A.
http://www.adorama.com/INKD90R.html

Nikon 18mm - 105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S DX (VR) Vibration Reduction
Wide Angle Autofocus Zoom Lens - Refurbished by Nikon U.S.A.
http://www.adorama.com/NK18105VRR.html

Total comes to $889.90 + Shipping on the camera (lens is free shipping)...
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True. While the Tokina 35-70/2.8 may be a very nice lens, it's zoom range on an APS-C dSLR isn't very useful, plus it doesn't AF or AE. If anything, I think you'd be best served by thinking of it as a special purpose second lens, if that.
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I'd look at the kits at Cameta Camera (a reputable Nikon USA Authorized Dealer). They've got the D90 body only in refurbished condition for $599.95 with free shipping now (and extend the 90 Nikon warranty to one year via a store warranty). Or, you could get a kit including the 18-105mm for $859.95 with free shipping (you'll see it listed below the body).

http://www.cameta.com/Nikon-D90-Digi...40354-kits.cfm

Here's a direct link to it:

http://www.cameta.com/Nikon-D90-Digi...Demo-40396.cfm

As already mentioned http://www.keh.com (a very reputable vendor) is also selling refurbished Nikon D90 bodies for $599. Note the earlier post in this thread by zig-123 mentioning he bought one from them and it arrived looking like new. They still have listings for them:

http://www.keh.com/camera/Nikon-Digi...99103499X?r=FE

I don't see any listings for a refurbished 18-105mm lens right now at keh.com, but they do have some used ones. Examples:

http://www.keh.com/camera/Nikon-Digi...99103240J?r=FE

B&H (another reputable vendor) also stocks 'em. They want $649 for the body only (a bit high), but they're at $249 for the lens (same as Adorama) with a kit price of $889.95 (same as Adorama). Here's the kit:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...al_Camera.html

More Nikon refurbished items at B&H:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ns=p_PRICE_2|1&ci=15242&N=4294210519+429109 3763+4291315846&srtclk=sort

I'd probably go Cameta Camera for a refurb D90 kit when comparing these 3 vendors (all are reputable), as they've got the best price/warranty/shipping combo I see for that kit. Cameta is $10 higher on the lens by itself ($259 versus $249) when compared to B&H or Adorama, but they're cheaper on the body $599. So, at only $859.95 with free shipping for the kit with a 1 year warranty, that would work for me when comparing vendors. I wouldn't even bother to split the order to save $10 with that kit price. They're reputable, they're an authorized Nikon USA Dealer, and they also extend the Nikon 90 day warranty (what Nikon USA has on their refurbished gear) to one year via a Cameta store warranty.

If budget is even tighter, just grab a kit with the D90 and 18-55mm and use it until budget permits something better.

You could get into a D90 with an 18-55mm lens for $699.90 delivered ($599.95 for a body, $99.95 for the lens) from Cameta Camera.

Body:
http://www.cameta.com/Nikon-D90-Digi...Demo-40354.cfm

Lens:
http://www.cameta.com/Nikon-18-55mm-...Demo-35479.cfm


With that 18-55mm lens, you'd have roughly the same angle of view you'd have using a 27-83mm lens on a 35mm camera (multiply by 1.5x to see how angle of view compares).
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STOP......I am convinced....I am thankful for the responses and the help.
The refurbished camera and lens / warranty is the best and logical way.
The price is excellent and I will be ordering in about two months. Need to save for more$
This forum is great...everyone has experience and respect for us all.
Very refreshing......THANKS
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