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Old Oct 3, 2011, 4:19 PM   #1
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Hi,I am planning a film to shoot on low budget,its about 90 min,which digital camera is best one to shoot,somebody telling canon 5d and some Panasonic, Sony and i have one doubt, these cameras are not 2k format i think it's HD 1080-when transferring HD to 2k is there any loss of quality or pixel-late will come or not? pl z help me
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Yes, digital cameras make videos intended for viewing on HD televisions, and have a maximum resolution of 1920 (horizontal) by 1080. The 2K Digital Cinema format uses a horizontal resolution of 2048. It uses JPEG2000 images and Broadcast Wave Format .WAV audio, neither of which are available directly from conventional digital cameras.

Since you want to create a movie, not a video, if you use a conventional digital camera, you will have to do some conversion, and yes, some loss of quality will probably result.
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Old Oct 4, 2011, 12:06 AM   #3
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On the other hand, low-medium budget films are now being shot on DSLR. The Canon 5D2 and 7D with the right accessories and skills are certainly capable of producing the results you need.

Footage can be imported directly into Final Cut Pro and output at sufficient resolution for digital projection.
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Hi peripatetic,i am bit confused shall i go for canon 5d 2 or not?
my doubt is about When converting or transfering 1920 to 2048 is it ok to maintain feature film quality?
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Yes and no.

I'd suggest you go to this website, sign up (free) and download their pdf to get started on some of the basics.

http://nofilmschool.com/about/

The most important thing is to realise that the camera is only the starting point. Shooting movies with a DSLR needs much more additional equipment than shooting stills. You need handling rigs, sound recording equipment (use the on-board sound only as a sync-track), a decent Mac, Final Cut Pro, the Canon transcoding plugins, etc, etc. And of course lenses. The good news is that the overall cost compared to shooting 35mm stock or even 16mm is far far less, and the extra costs for shooting extra footage are only marginal, not linear as they are with film.

You can absolutely have feature film quality with a 5D2. But it's easy to mess it all up and get substantially less. If you have 35mm or 16mm film experience you will find much of it translates to shooting video, and that's the stuff that still photographers have no clue about.

Remember there are 100 things you have to get right to make a decent feature film. Mess up any one of them and it can all go horribly wrong.

This is really the wrong site for asking about shooting movies with DSLRs though.
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I am wondering what your intended target device is?
You have access to a 2k or a 4k cinema quality projector?

Any up-sampling does degrade image, going to only 2k may not be too bad from 1080p. Hard for us to say motion film is not our normal medium.

There have been some native 4k films produced with the 5dmkii, by using Time Lapse (which takes thousands of still images @21mp and then joins them in software.
Here are some sites dealing with time lapse.
The timescapes movie on the next link was done with a mix of camera types mostly REDs, Their blog describes the setups if you dig in to it.

http://timescapes.org/trailer.asp
http://forum.timescapes.org/phpBB3/index.php
http://vimeo.com/groups/5dmk2/forumthread:3033

This one is dedicated to 5d timelapse these blog posts are by owner of the timescapes site
http://blog.planet5d.com/2009/04/stu...melapse-video/
planet5d home stie http://blog.planet5d.com/

TSO Photography has been producing timelapse shorts with the 5dmkii in 4k format you can see some of Terje's works linked from here.
http://vimeo.com/terjes

The DSLR's are very good at what they can produce 1080p movie wise, but if you are after real high end cinema quality you may be better off looking at RED for full motion.

As mentioned previously the camera is only the starting point, there is a ton of equipment needed to make good movies.
Even with a RED if it is handled like a normal consumer camera it will produce normal home movies just at a very high resolution
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My wife has just finished working on a film shot mostly on the Arri Alexa, knocks the DSLRs out of contention, and quite a lot better than the RED cameras too, but it is a lot more expensive. Still much cheaper than 35mm though.

http://www.arri.de/camera/digital_cameras
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Hi peripatetic,
Thanks for ur suggestions can u give some websites for clearing movie doubts.
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