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Old Dec 23, 2011, 8:59 AM   #11
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ThNk you peripatetic, I was actually looking at them yesterday, and have a couple of questions,hopefully someone here can help me with.
I was reading an online review stating high ISO is better than Oly even with the smaller sensor. For anyone with experience with this camera, is it true? Second is clearly relatad to my first question, overall how does IQ compare with m 4/3?
On a side note, I was surprised by how "big" they are, given their sensor size.
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Old Dec 23, 2011, 2:21 PM   #12
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Ozzie, do you have pictures of your tests? Do you mean there is virtually no difference in IQ between them, AF focusing?
G'day Marubex

I will show them into a new post
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Old Dec 23, 2011, 5:04 PM   #13
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ThNk you peripatetic, I was actually looking at them yesterday, and have a couple of questions,hopefully someone here can help me with.
I was reading an online review stating high ISO is better than Oly even with the smaller sensor. For anyone with experience with this camera, is it true? Second is clearly relatad to my first question, overall how does IQ compare with m 4/3?
On a side note, I was surprised by how "big" they are, given their sensor size.
Thank you all for your help..
I seen the Nikon 1 it does not compare to the larger sensor. Went to the store, and the camera guys there said they get returns on it as it does not preform well in low light like the penny gf cameras.
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Old Dec 24, 2011, 5:07 AM   #14
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The DXOMark scores are compelling.

The sensor is fine for 8x12 prints up to ISO800.

It loses 1/2 stop in low light to the Panasonic sensors. I would take that happily for the fact that I think it's a much better camera than any of the Panasonics or Olympus m4/3.

Get a copy of DXO Optics to automagically improve things.

Anecdotes from camera stores are not compelling.
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I agree that anecdotal tales from camera shops are not compelling in making a buying decision. But, I also feel that DXOMark scores are equally non-compelling as most of us don't take photographs in a laboratory.

I think what's important is to look and evaluate the camera system that has the
feature set, lenses, and capabilities that meet your particular shooting style and requirements. Ergonomics also play a large part in how much you'll enjoy using the camera. Equally important, is the user interface.

One consideration is that the micro43 system is the only one currently available that offers the broadest range of choices in camera bodies, lenses and accessories.

Good luck with your decision.

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Thanks Phil for the pictures, and all for your help.
Peri, why do you think Panasonic and olympus are not as good cameras? I am asking because I have no experience with them.
So far I think I am leaning toward the m4/3 system, just have narrowed down to which brand/camera.
Is the new Panasonic sensor (g3/gx1) much better than Oly epl3/epm/ep3?
So far I have this list of pros/cons:
Panasonic
+ newer sensor
+ touch screen in all models(i am thinking maybe it is easier to handle menu driven cameras with no much buttons this way?)
- heavier/bigger lenses
- not so good colors and jpeg
Oly
+more compact/lighter lenses
+better jpeg and colors
+IBIS
-if I go with pen mini, how fast is to change settings with no buttons?
-older sensor
-worst iso compared to Panasonic newe (but how much worse??)
-uncertain company future??

Thanks for bearing with such a long post, but I always value your input. You have helped me greatly in the past and have learned a lot just by hanging on this site.
Have a Happy Holidays and a great New Year...

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The Panny G3 with their 14-140mm lens would make a rather nice travelling companion.... if a little pricey..!
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For casual travel I wouldn't mind being gifted with a Panny GF3. If it's a once-in-a-lifetime trip I'd just suck it up and lug my DSLR along.

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The m4/3 systems are nice, but so close to your DSLR that unless you are selling your Canon I don't see why you would ever use one.

As I understand it you are looking for a complement, not a replacement.
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I travel all the time, went to SE Asia for a month on vacation, and the m4/3 system got all the shots I wanted during my travels. The biggest thing that they can not do is shoot good action stuff. But that is on type of photography that I do not shoot when on vacation. Unless I was on safari again in Africa. Then the dslr would be my pack camera.

What a little sensor camera would not have been able to capture would be the HK light show at night and a night time concert in Thailand. The m4/3 capable of that shooting.

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