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Old Jan 16, 2012, 5:07 AM   #11
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guys i know this Question must have been asked a thousand times but please please help me too like u have all done for others
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im confused between buying CANON600D or CANON60D
In order of performance/price/quality, the Canon DSLR ranges are:

xD (1D, 5D, 7D)
xxD ( ....40D, 50D, 60D )
xxxD (.....500D, 550D, 600D...)
xxxxD (1000D, 1100D).

Note that the xxxD and xxxxD models have different names in
Europe, America and Asia.

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which is better over the other.
That depends on how you define "better". The 60D is the
bigger, heavier and more expensive camera. The 60D has
a better viewfinder, superior AF system (although the 600D AF
is also pretty good) and a faster burst shooting rate.


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also help me with lens . i have a choice to take the 18-55mm lens or pay more and take a 18-135mm
Both are quite good kit lenses. If the extra cost is very small, I would take
the 18-135mm. If the cost is significantly more, I would buy the basic kit
with 18-55mm. When you buy a very good camera like the 60D, it is very
likely you will want to buy a better lens at some time in the future. This
means that the kit lens will probably end up gathering dust in a drawer.
The Canon 15-85mm is one of the best general purpose zoom lenses,
but they are quite expensive.

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i need a lens that will give me good quality pics specially in dark or low lit places like beaches, night clubs etc. also so of course in day too
A fast prime lens is probably the best option for low light. The Canon
50mm f/1.8 is very good in low light and at around 100 //$ it is
very good value. The 50mm lens has a fairly restricted field of view
for some indoor shots. You might prefer a shorter focal length such
as 35, 28 or 24mm. Unfortunately these cost more than the 50mm f/1.8.
I would suggest that you experiment using the kit lens. This will give you
a good indication of the focal lengths that you need.

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No need for desperation! Take your time. Handle both cameras, read
the reviews and pick the one you like best. Both are excellent cameras.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 5:14 AM   #12
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Just curious - would you be at the club as a photographer or do you just want something that will get good pictures while you're there socially with friends? An SLR with a decent flash is a pretty unwieldy piece of kit to lug around if the latter and it'll be expensive enough that you won't want to be leaving it on the table while you go to the bar.
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...the 60D's AF has a big edge of the 600D with the 9 cross type points. Very useful in low light to get accurate focus.
I always wonder about this - you're more likely to get *something* in focus at one of the AF points but it surely becomes less likely that it's the thing you wanted? What I think I'd really want is one really awesome AF point in the centre instead of lots that might be focussing on something unintended.
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Old Jan 16, 2012, 6:02 AM   #14
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hi the 60d is the better camera but the 18-55 lens is the better kit lens. if you want low light then you will need a faster lens or an external ETTL flash. All that said I would go for the 600d with sigma 17-70os lens and a external flash
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Welcome to the forum. If your question has been asked before, you can find
the thread using the forum search tool. When searching, remember that the
600D is known as the T3i in North America.

In order of performance/price/quality, the Canon DSLR ranges are:

xD (1D, 5D, 7D)
xxD ( ....40D, 50D, 60D )
xxxD (.....500D, 550D, 600D...)
xxxxD (1000D, 1100D).

Note that the xxxD and xxxxD models have different names in
Europe, America and Asia.

That depends on how you define "better". The 60D is the
bigger, heavier and more expensive camera. The 60D has
a better viewfinder, superior AF system (although the 600D AF
is also pretty good) and a faster burst shooting rate.


Both are quite good kit lenses. If the extra cost is very small, I would take
the 18-135mm. If the cost is significantly more, I would buy the basic kit
with 18-55mm. When you buy a very good camera like the 60D, it is very
likely you will want to buy a better lens at some time in the future. This
means that the kit lens will probably end up gathering dust in a drawer.
The Canon 15-85mm is one of the best general purpose zoom lenses,
but they are quite expensive.

A fast prime lens is probably the best option for low light. The Canon
50mm f/1.8 is very good in low light and at around 100 //$ it is
very good value. The 50mm lens has a fairly restricted field of view
for some indoor shots. You might prefer a shorter focal length such
as 35, 28 or 24mm. Unfortunately these cost more than the 50mm f/1.8.
I would suggest that you experiment using the kit lens. This will give you
a good indication of the focal lengths that you need.

No need for desperation! Take your time. Handle both cameras, read
the reviews and pick the one you like best. Both are excellent cameras.
thank u sir for this very valued and detailed explanation .
i think i have come to the right board and best experts.
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Just curious - would you be at the club as a photographer or do you just want something that will get good pictures while you're there socially with friends? An SLR with a decent flash is a pretty unwieldy piece of kit to lug around if the latter and it'll be expensive enough that you won't want to be leaving it on the table while you go to the bar.
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no but i hope to get a job in such clubs where pretty women are
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Welcome to the forum. If your question has been asked before, you can find
the thread using the forum search tool. When searching, remember that the
600D is known as the T3i in North America.

In order of performance/price/quality, the Canon DSLR ranges are:

xD (1D, 5D, 7D)
xxD ( ....40D, 50D, 60D )
xxxD (.....500D, 550D, 600D...)
xxxxD (1000D, 1100D).

Note that the xxxD and xxxxD models have different names in
Europe, America and Asia.

That depends on how you define "better". The 60D is the
bigger, heavier and more expensive camera. The 60D has
a better viewfinder, superior AF system (although the 600D AF
is also pretty good) and a faster burst shooting rate.


Both are quite good kit lenses. If the extra cost is very small, I would take
the 18-135mm. If the cost is significantly more, I would buy the basic kit
with 18-55mm. When you buy a very good camera like the 60D, it is very
likely you will want to buy a better lens at some time in the future. This
means that the kit lens will probably end up gathering dust in a drawer.
The Canon 15-85mm is one of the best general purpose zoom lenses,
but they are quite expensive.

A fast prime lens is probably the best option for low light. The Canon
50mm f/1.8 is very good in low light and at around 100 //$ it is
very good value. The 50mm lens has a fairly restricted field of view
for some indoor shots. You might prefer a shorter focal length such
as 35, 28 or 24mm. Unfortunately these cost more than the 50mm f/1.8.
I would suggest that you experiment using the kit lens. This will give you
a good indication of the focal lengths that you need.

No need for desperation! Take your time. Handle both cameras, read
the reviews and pick the one you like best. Both are excellent cameras.
thanku very much sir for the detailed explanation and ur time
guys like u make us newbies do the wise and best choices
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ok shoturtle thank . check the pic im posting , this is what i want
That wasn't done with a flash.

Direct flash illuminates closer subjects more than distant subjects, which isn't the case here, and indirect flash won't work in most clubs because they usually have blacked out ceilings, so there's nothing to bounce the flash off of. This was done with some significant light source independent of the camera (as in "available light".)

For that you'll need a large aperture lens. Zoom lenses with apertures larger than f/2.8 are rare and expensive. Prime (fixed focal length) lenses can have larger apertures and still be reasonably priced. (Case in point, the 28/1.8 and 50/1.8 that have already been suggested.) Prime lenses, unfortunately, have limited flexiblity, so you may need an assortment of them to always get the shot you want.
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The 60D AF points are all more sensitive, so you can use anyone of them to track your subject. Just pick the one you want to use and snap away. Some do not always want to use the center point.

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I always wonder about this - you're more likely to get *something* in focus at one of the AF points but it surely becomes less likely that it's the thing you wanted? What I think I'd really want is one really awesome AF point in the centre instead of lots that might be focussing on something unintended.
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I would not go with the 50 1.8, the AF is way to slow for club shooting. And it is a bit tight in confine spaces. If you want a 50, the canon 50 1.4 is the better lens for the club application. But the 28 1.8 is the best option for club shooting, it is wide enough with a fast AF.
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