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Old Feb 20, 2013, 8:23 PM   #1
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Default Considering two 4/3 mirrorless systems: Fujifilm X-Pro 1 or Lumix DMC-GH3?

Hi,

We currently own a Canon EOS 30D body and a number of their lens. My wife travels with an enormous gear bag. I simply take my small Canon point and shoot (S95) but it is quite limited in what it can do (maxes out at F8)I would never carry a large bag of kit like she does. I am trained from film days to shoot manually and I frequently shoot fully manual or with aperture priority mode.

So I am looking for a camera that will be good to travel with that is smaller and lighter than our DSLR. It can be a great camera like an Canon EOS 6D or Nikon D600 but at that size and weight, particularly with good glass it won't get used. I will leave it at home. This has led me to look at a number of the mirrorless options available. I also have been looking into the range of lens available as well., because your really buying into both.

I also shoot staged still life's of my wristwatches which I collect and also my guitars. I do a bunch of macro here using my Wife's DSLR with a 60 mm Macro. I would like to buy a macro and use my new camera for this as well.

After looking at offerings from Canon, Fujifilm, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic and Sony; I am focused on two alternative cameras:

1) Fujifilm X-Pro 1
2) Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3

I have been really looking into size and weight of these camera systems to get a sense of size and weight savings over an equivalent cost DSLR

Canon EOS 7D + EF 24-70 mm F4 lens (38-112 effective)
Weight: 1416g (816 g body + 600 g lens)
Size: 147.3 x 111.8 x 73.7 mm

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 + GX Vario 12-35 F2.8 Lens (24-70 effective)
Weight: 855g (550g body + 305g lens)
Size: 132.1 x 94.0 x 81.3 mm

FujiFilm X-Pro 1 + XF 18-55 mm F2.8-4 Lens (36-110 effective)
Weight: 780g (450g body + 330g lens)
Size: 139.7 x 81.3 x 43.2 mm

So both with a standard zoom lens are 55-60% of the weight of the DSLR. Size wise, the Fuji is thinner and both are slightly shorter but are as wide as a DSLR. The lenses for each that interest me are:

I have been really looking into size and weight of these camera systems to get a sense of size and weight savings over an equivalent cost DSLR.

DSLR

Canon EOS 7D + EF 24-70 mm F4 lens (38-112 effective)
Weight: 1416g (816 g body + 600 g lens)
Size: 147.3 x 111.8 x 73.7 mm

Mirrorless Systems:

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 + GX Vario 12-35 F2.8 Lens (24-70 effective)
Weight: 855g (550g body + 305g lens)
Size: 132.1 x 94.0 x 81.3 mm

FujiFilm X-Pro 1 + XF 18-55 mm F2.8-4 Lens (36-110 effective)
Weight: 780g (450g body + 330g lens)
Size: 139.7 x 81.3 x 43.2 mm

So both with a standard zoom lens are 55-60% of the weight of the DSLR. Size wise, the Fuji is thinner and both are slightly shorter but are as wide as a DSLR. The lenses for each that look interesting are:

Lumix:
12-35 mm (24-70 mm) F2.8
45 mm (90 mm) F2.8 Macro

Fujifilm:
18-55 mm (27-84 mm) F2.8-F4
60 mm (90 mm) F2.4 Macro

Even looking at the list of planned glass for 2013, the lumix line-up seems more robust albeit more expensive. The GH3 is slightly larger and heavier than the Fujifilm, but is still about 40% lighter than a DSLR in a weatherproof body. The question is when I handle it, is it small enough to travel with? For example, a smaller pro/consumer DSLR with a plastic body:

Nikon D5200 + Nikkor 17-55 F2.8 lens
Weight: 1310g (555 g body + 755 g lens)
Size: 129 x 98 x 78 mm

An equivalently outfitted Lumix is still 35% lighter mostly due to the 4/3 glass vs the body which is similar in size and weight albeit the Lumix is more robustly constructed (weight in DSLR body is Penta-prism I suppose).

So what say you? Or should I consider something else given my needs/goals?

Thanks,

Bob
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 3:00 AM   #2
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Don't fancy the "bijou" Nikon V2...?
Only measuring 108 x 82 x 46mm and weighing in with battery,card and with kit lens at only 452g..! (body,batt,card- 337g- 10-30mm lens- 115g).
The earlier V1 can also be had for very little money these days- though a fraction heavier and a tiny bit wider- 5mm or so...
No real macro lens for the 1 system yet- though with the available FT1 lens adapter,can accept an F mount lens- and given the 2.7x crop factor could result in some rather impressive macro results..!

A little further up the price scale, the rather handsome Olympus OM-D E-M5...
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/0...by-steve-huff/

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