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Old Jul 18, 2014, 4:14 PM   #21
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 4:45 PM   #23
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I presume you're trying to make some point.

I just don't know what it is.
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 5:38 PM   #24
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"Plus, long focal lengths will generally preclude the ability to shoot at f4. "

True, unless you have 'pro quality' glass.

('Pro Quality' glass need not cost $5K, but $3-500 for a prime and $2-3000 for an intermediate telephoto will do it)

This was my exact point in my original reply to the OP.

As you already know (the OP may not have known) sometimes one needs f4, either for depth of field or shutter speed.

'No sweat' until one gets to longer focal length glass.

(I had posted some poorly resized down examples which I removed and replaced with the last shot which was APO 80-200 f2.8 glass shot at 1.5 sensor factor resulting in a 300mm 'sweet spot' at f4 to get the required DOF for the bird's beak)

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I use a Tokina 100-300mm f/4.0 lens for my wildlife shooting ...



... and my outdoor sports shooting ...



... so I know what you mean.

But that lens and lenses like it aren't available anymore. If someone wants an f/4 aperture at a focal length of 300mm, the prices start at $1,349.00 for the Canon EF 300mm f/4L IS USM or $6,749.00 for the Nikon 200-400mm f/4G ED AF-S VR-II.
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Note: when I suggested a 70-300mm lens for shooting outdoor sports, it was with the understanding that it would be used on an APS-C body. Thus, I'm not talking about a 35mm equivalent of 300mm, I'm talking about 300mm. That's why f/4 is hard to come by.
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I need something that is good with action/sports, has a great zoom and is fairly user friendly.
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Back to your original question. What kind of sports and action do you plan to shoot, and how familiar are you with the activities? In many sports, one can anticipate where and when something will happen, and pre-focus the camera to be able to catch the action as it happens. Outdoor action shots of wildlife are a different kettle of fish (ahem, ahem), but larger birds and game animals are a bit less difficult. (geese don't change direction as quiclky as hummingbirds, for example)
What kind of results are you after? As I mentioned earlier, the intended method of viewing comes in to play, as much as the type of camera.
"Great zoom" is an indicator that you are looking for a fixed lens camera with a large zoom capability. There are quite a few of these available. I use a Fuji X-S1, which works well for me, but it is large, complex, and I wouldn't rate it as very user friendly. The autofocus can be quirky at times, as well. Others are very taken with the Panasonic FZ cameras. I think FZ 150 is the current one. Pentax/Ricoh has just announced a new one (see the Steve's digicams main page)
With a little more detail on what you want to do with the camera, we should be able to give more detailed answers. (if we quit arguing amongst ourselves)
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Brian, it appears Lisa may have gone "over the hill". I certainly couldn't blame her. Her last post was two days ago. I think she gave up.
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Brian, it appears Lisa may have gone "over the hill". I certainly couldn't blame her. Her last post was two days ago. I think she gave up.
True, but her last post was upbeat and hopeful:

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I'll look into them, thank you!
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