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Old Aug 15, 2004, 12:22 AM   #1
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I have put together a list of all current cameras that I can find that do 30fps of 640x480 movies. Have I missed any? I have added some info on each since I would have loved to have found a thread like this. This list is update as new cameras are released.

Following the current cameras is a discontinued cameras category and an "OTHER DEVISES" Category¬*

NOTE: I state optical or digital image stabilization and zoom during movies if I know the type. If unstated it is more likely to be digital than optical - especially for the zoom during movies. If I talk about the zoom without saying during videos (or movies), THEN I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT DURING MOVIES. Some cameras at lower resolutions are being smart about how they zoom past the stated optical zoom maximum. At the lower resolution, these cameras can zoom further without lowering the set resolution.

Tiny (150,000 cubed mm or less)

Ben Q DC E520 ( 5 MP, lens ? mm, 130 grams w/o ? , format ?, no $ est yet ) added August 1, 2005
Canon Powershot SD200 (also called IXUS 30) ( 3.2 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 115 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $183-303 ) also 60 fps at 320x240
Canon Powershot SD300 (also called IXUS 40) ( 3.9 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 130 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $245-349 ) also 60 fps at 320x240
Canon Powershot SD400 (also called IXUS 50) ( 5 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 130 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $318-399 ) also 60 fps at 320x240, zoom in videos
Canon Powershot SD500 (also called IXUS 700) ( 7.1 MP, lens 37-111 mm, 170 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $406-499 ) also 60 fps at 320x240, zoom in videos
Casio EX-S500 ( 4.9 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 115 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (AVI) , $376-408 )
Casio EX-Z10 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 138 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , no $ est yet ) image stabilization, stills from video - Added Aug 7, 2005
Casio EX-Z110 ( 6 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 136 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , no $ est yet ) image stabilization, stills from video - Added Aug 7, 2005
Casio EX-Z500 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 112 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , no $ est yet ) image stabilization, stills from video - Added Aug 7, 2005
Casio EX-Z750 ( 7.2 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 127 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (AVI) , $361-450 ) multiple movie mode settings
Contax i4R ( 4 MP, lens 39 mm, 90 grams w/o , Motion JPEG? (AVI) , $295-299 )
Contax SL300R T ( 3.17 MP, lens 38-115 mm, 125 grams w , Motion JPEG? (AVI) , $429-479 )
Contax U4R ( 4 MP, lens 38-115 mm, 140 grams w/o , Motion JPEG? (AVI) , $299-479 )
DXG 552 ( 5.1 MP, lens fixed at ? mm, <63 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $139 list ) added August 1, 2005
Fuji F10 ( 6.1 MP, lens 36-108 mm, 155 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $278-399 )
Fuji Z1 ( 5.1 MP, lens 36-108 mm, 130 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $259-399 )
Kodak V530 ( 5 MP, lens 36-108 mm, 130 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (MOV) , $297-375 ) zoom in videos, image stabilization, stills from video
Kodak V550 ( 5 MP, lens 36-108 mm, 143 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (MOV) , $354-399 ) zoom in videos, image stabilization, stills from video
Minox DC 8111 ( 8.1 MP, lens 36-108 mm, 150 grams w/o? , ? (AVI) , no $ est yet ) added August 1, 2005
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX9 ( 5.9 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 155 grams w , Motion JPEG , no $ est yet ) image stabilization, extra optical zoom at lower resolution
Panasonic Lumix FX8 ( 5 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 155 grams w , Motion JPEG , $274-449 ) image stabilization
Pentax OptioS5n ( 5 MP, lens 36-107 mm, 120 grams w , MPEG-4 (AVI) , $259-299 )
Rollei dp8300 ( 8.1 MP, lens 36-108 mm, 150 grams w/o , MPEG1 (AVI) , $422 est )
Rollei dr5 ( 5 MP, lens 28-135 mm, 150 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $422 est )
Samsung Digimax i5 ( 5 MP, lens 39-117 mm, 125 or133 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (AVI) , $299-349 ) zoom in video but muted, image stabilization
Samsung Digimax i50 MP3 ( 5 MP, lens 39-117 mm, 125 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (AVI) , no $ est yet ) also MP3 playback
Samsung Digimax L50 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 120 grams w/o ? , MPEG-4 (AVI) , no $ est yet ) zoom in video but muted, image stabilization, capture still in playback
Samsung Digimax L55W ( 5 MP, lens 28-135 mm, 195 grams w/o ? , MPEG-4 , no $ est yet ) capture still in playback
Sony DSC-L1 ( 4.1 MP, lens 32-96 mm, 122 grams w/o , MPEG VX (MPG) , $216-348 )
Sony DSC-P100 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 230 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $259-414 )
Sony DSC-P120 ( 5.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 158 grams ? , MPEG VX (MPG) , not USA camera )
Sony DSC-P200 ( 7.2 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 180 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $315-407 )
Sony DSC-T1 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 180 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $269-378 )
Sony DSC-T11 ( 5.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 161 grams ? , MPEG VX (MPG) , $346-362 )
Sony DSC-T3 ( 5.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 146 grams w/o , MPEG VX (MPG) , $289-438 )
Sony DSC-T33 ( 5.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 125 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $289-449 )
Sony DSC-T5 ( 5.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 139 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $350 list ) added August 1, 2005
Sony DSC-T7 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 134 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $377-499 )
Sony DSC-W12 ( 5.22 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 189 grams ? , MPEG VX (MPG) , not USA camera )


Small (150,001 to 275,000 cubic mm)

DXG 568 ( 5.1 MP, lens fixed at ? mm, <157 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $129 list ) added August 1, 2005
Epson L500V ( 4.9 MP, lens 34-102 mm, 165 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $299 )
Fuji E550 ( 6 MP, lens 32.5-130 mm, 200 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $239-349 )
Fuji E900 ( 9 MP, lens 32-128 mm, 200 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , no $ est yet ) - added July 28, 2005
Fuji F810 ( 6 MP, lens 32.5-130 mm, 200 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $399-407 )
HP Photosmart R817 and R818 ( 5.1 MP, lens 36-180 mm, 190 grams w , MPEG1 , not USA camera )
Kodak Easyshare-One ( 4 MP, lens 36-108 mm, 225 grams w/o? , MPEG-4 (MOV) , $599 list ) zoom in videos, optional wireless connection
Kyocera Finecam S3R ( 3.17 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 175 grams ? , Motion JPEG (AVI) , not USA camera )
Nikon 5200 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 180 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $208-399 )
Nikon 5900 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 150 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI?) , $224-299 )
Nikon 7600 ( 7.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 145 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $275-379 ) Image Stabilization
Nikon 7900 ( 7.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 150 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $299-399 ) Image Stabilization
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX1 ( 8.3 MP, lens 28-112 mm, 220 grams w , Motion JPEG , no $ est yet ) 848X480 or 640x480 at 30fps, image stabilization, extra optical zoom at lower resolution
Pentax 43WR ( 4 MP, lens 37-104 mm, 208 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $289-349 ) water resistant
Pentax Optio 750Z ( 7 MP, lens 37.5-187.5 mm, 255 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $305-549 )
Samsung Digimax 430 ( 4 MP, lens 37-104 mm, 144.3 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $189-199 )
Samsung Digimax A5 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 166 grams w/o? , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $207-229 )
Samsung Digimax A50 ( 5 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 185? grams w , MPEG-4 (AVI) , no $ est yet ) zoom in video but muted, image stabilization
Samsung Digimax A55W ( 5 MP, lens 28-135 mm, 115 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (AVI) , no $ est yet ) zoom in video but muted, image stabilization, capture still in playback
Samsung Digimax A6 ( 6 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 166 grams w/o? , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $268-299 )
Samsung Digimax A7 ( 7 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 166 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $259-299 )
Samsung Digimax U-CA5 ( 5 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 130.6 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (AVI) , $245-279 )
Samsung Digimax V40 ( 3.9 MP, lens 38-113 mm, 230 grams w , MPEG-4 , $299 )
Samsung Digimax V5 ( 5 MP, lens 38-113 mm, 180 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $194-269 )
Samsung Digimax V50 ( 5 MP, lens 38-113 mm, 230 grams w , MPEG-4 , $301-360 )
Samsung Digimax V6 ( 6.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 170 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $264-299 )
Samsung Digimax V70 ( 7 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 190 grams w/o? , MPEG-4 , $523-629 )
Samsung Digimax V700 ( 7.4 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 150 grams w/o? , MPEG-4 , $294-399 )
Sony DSC-M1 ( 5.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 215 grams w , MPEG-4 (MP4) , $399-499 ) zoom in videos, stereo audio
Sony DSC-P43 ( 4.1 MP, lens 33 fixed mm, 148 grams ? , MPEG VX (MPG) , not USA camera )
Sony DSC-P73 ( 4.1 MP, lens 39-117 mm, 236 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $167-305 )
Sony DSC-P93 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 175 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $249-309 )
Sony DSC-S40 ( 4.1 MP, lens 32-96 mm, 184 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $169-199 )
Sony DSC-S60 ( 4.1 MP, lens 39-117 mm, 253 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $192-259 )
Sony DSC-S90 ( 4.1 MP, lens 39-117 mm, 253 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $232-299 )
Sony DSC-W17 ( 7.2 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 197 grams ? , MPEG VX (MPG) , not USA camera )
Sony DSC-W5 ( 5.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 253 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $269-349 ) Smart Digital Zoom at lower resolutions
Sony DSC-W7 ( 7.2 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 253 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $331-449 ) Smart Digital Zoom at lower resolutions

Medium (275,001 to 500,000 cubic mm)

Casio Pro EX-P505 ( 4.9 MP, lens 38-190 mm, 215 grams w/o , MPEG-4 (AVI) , $369-499 ) optical zoom in videos, stereo audio, many movie modes
Kyocera Finecam M400R ( 4 MP, lens 37-370 mm, 290 grams ? , Motion JPEG (AVI) , not USA camera )
Kyocera M410R ( 4 MP, lens 37-370 mm, 340 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $419 )
Olympus C-7000 ( 7.1 MP, lens 38-190 mm, 220 grams w/o? , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $291-599 ) only 20 video at highest mode
Olympus C-770 ( 3.9 MP, lens 38-380 mm, 310 grams w , MPEG-4 (MP4) , Motion JPEG (MOV) @15fps , $274-449 ) zoom in videos, extra optical zoom at lower resolution
Pentax Optio MX4 ( 4 MP, lens 37-370 mm, 375 grams w , MPEG-4 (MOV) , $241-299 )
Sony DSC-V3 ( 7.1 MP, lens 34-136 mm, 390 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $442-599 )


Large (500,001 to 800,000 cubic mm)¬*

Canon Powershot S1 IS ( 3.2 MP, lens 38-380 mm, 469 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $227-399 ) zoom in videos, image stabilization
Canon Powershot S2 IS ( 5 MP, lens 36-432 mm, 405 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $424-499 ) optical zoom in videos, optical image stabilization, stereo sound, picture during movie
Fuji S5100 ( 4 MP, lens 37-370 mm, 337 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $249-349 )
Fuji S5500 ( 4 MP, lens 37-370 mm, 337 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , not USA camera )
Kodak Easyshare P850 ( 5.1 MP, lens 36-432 mm, 403 grams w/o , Motion JPEG , $499 list ) optical zoom in videos, optical image stabilization, stills from video - Added Aug 7, 2005
Kodak Easyshare P880 ( 8 MP, lens 28-140 mm, 556 grams w , Motion JPEG , $599 list ) optical zoom in videos, optical image stabilization, stills from video - Added Aug 7, 2005
Minolta Z1 ( 3.2 MP, lens 38-380 mm, 411 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $179-225 ) only 30 seconds
Minolta Z2 ( 3.9 MP, lens 38-380 mm, 411 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $239-399 ) 800x600 15fps, zoom in videos
Minolta Z3 ( 3.9 MP, lens 35-420 mm, 435 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $239-501 ) zoom in videos, image stabilization, stereo sound, picture during movie
Minolta Z5 ( 4.9 MP, lens 35-420 mm, 340 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $328-499 ) zoom in videos, image stabilization
Nikon 8400 ( 8 MP, lens 24-85 mm, 470 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $491-899 )
Rollei dk4010 ( 4 MP, lens 37-370 mm, 310 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , not USA camera )
Samsung Pro 815 ( 8 MP, lens 28-420 mm, 910 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $849 list ) 3.5" main LCD screen, 1.44" top LCD screen, stereo audio
Sony DSC-H1 ( 5.1 MP, lens 36-432 mm, 460 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $399-514 ) image stabilization


Extra Large (800,001 or more cubic mm)¬*

Fuji S20 Pro ( 6.1 MP, lens 35-210 mm, 597 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $679-699 )
Fuji S5200 (also called S5600) ( 5.1 MP, lens 38-380 mm, 370 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , no $ est yet ) - added July 28, 2005
Fuji S7000 ( 6 MP, lens 35-210 mm, 590 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $375-549 )
Fuji S9000 Zoom (also call S9500) ( 9 MP, lens 28-300 mm, 645 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , no $ est yet ) tilting LCD - added July 28, 2005
Minolta A200 ( 8 MP, lens 28-200 mm, 505 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $512-799 ) 800x600 15fps, image stabilization
Nikon 8700 ( 8 MP, lens 35-280 mm, 512 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $499-799 ) only 35 seconds VGA
Nikon 8800 ( 8 MP, lens 35-350 mm, 600 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $689-999 ) image stabilization, only 60 seconds VGA
Panasonic DMC-FZ30 ( 8 MP, lens 35-420 mm, 740 grams w , Motion JPEG , no $ est yet ) image stabilization, extra optical zoom at lower resolution
Sony DSC-F828 ( 8 MP, lens 28-200 mm, 906 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $699-899 )

Discontinued cameras

Epson L-410 ( 4 MP, lens 34-102 mm, 203 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $197 )
Fuji F610 ( 6 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 195 grams w/o , Motion JPEG (AVI) , )
Fuji F700 ( 3.1 or 6.28 extrapolated MP, lens 35-105 mm, 205 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $239-389 ) extrapolate to 6.28 MP
Fuji F710 ( 3.1 or 6.2 extrapolated MP, lens 35-142 mm, 210 grams ? , Motion JPEG (AVI) , )
Fuji M603 ( 3.1 MP, lens 38-76 mm, 280 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , )
Kyocera S5R ( 5 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 205 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $267-356 )
Nikon 3700 ( 3.1 MP, lens 35-105 mm, 162 grams w , Motion JPEG (MOV) , $179-379 )
Pentax Optio MX ( 3.2 MP, lens 38-380 mm, 375 grams w , MPEG-4 (MOV) , $224-499 )
Samsung Digimax 370 ( 3.1 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 157 grams w , Motion JPEG (AVI) , $149-165 )
Sony DSC-P150 ( 7.2 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 183 grams ? , MPEG VX (MPG) , $303-438 )
Sony DSC-P41 ( 4.1 MP, lens 33 mm, 195 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $159-199 )
Sony DSC-W1 ( 5 MP, lens 38-114 mm, 250 grams w , MPEG VX (MPG) , $289-309 ) Smart Digital Zoom at lower resolutions


Miscellaneous Other Devises
DigiLife DDV-S660 MPEG-4 , older version of S670
DigiLife DDV-S670 ( 3.2 MP, lens ? mm, 160 grams w , MPEG-4 (AVI) , $179-319 ) (Stereo MP# player, voice recorder, web cam, USB flash drive)
Fisher FVD-C1 ( 3.2 MP, lens 38-220 mm, 173 grams w , MPEG-4 (AVI) , $539-799 ) stereo audio, industry puts in camcorder, zoom in videos
Sanyo Xacti DMX-C4 ( 4 MP, lens 38-220 mm, 159 ? , MPEG-4 (MP4) , ) industry puts in camcorder
Sanyo Xacti VPC-J4 EX ( 4 MP, lens 37-104 mm, 147 grams w , ? , $560 )
Another thread that you might be interested in is a listing of Hybrid Devises in a new catagory called hybrids:
http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...02&forum_id=92

I have noticed that different sites have different information on all of these cameras (sometimes major differences, including different info within the manufacturers websites). If you find an error in the above list, please let me know I and I will try to figure out what is the correct information.¬*

I am back in the market for a camera that does BOTH great pictures and great videos. I prefer having a camera that is small and light, but am willing look at somewhat larger camera if need be. I know myself and know that I will only carry one devise, so don't tell me to get a camcorder - it is already is sitting in my closet.

Editting note: Updating this as new information comes in. Revised all prices on July 24, 2005. Many went down significantly - especially those with estimated prices.
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Old Aug 15, 2004, 12:59 AM   #2
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Don't know if you forgot any or not, but have you considered adding whether or not they have a set limit on how long a recorded video can be?
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Konica Minolta Z3 also has antishake, can do 640x480fps videos, great macro, 12x zoom, and Ultra High Speed continous mode
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I thought about adding the time limits, movie format and media used, but I only had that info on some of the cameras (i.e. the ones I had already looked heavily into before I started this project of trying to find all the cameras). Also I had conflicting info on several of the cameras and would have to run down which was correct.

Some info that I do have on all of these cameras is the size (in mm) and the CNET rating (if it is rated), but I thought I would try to keep it "somewhat short" and figured that the weight was some indictation of size. Can easily add these if people wish.

I will go ahead and edit this list with the time limits info as I get it, but not today! I already spent WAY too much time on this project today (only stopped to eat and now it is past my bed time).
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"Konica Minolta Z3 also has antishake, can do 640x480fps videos, great macro, 12x zoom, and Ultra High Speed continous mode"

Noted and changed. I hadn't done research on this camera yet. Now I will (even though the camera is larger than I would like) since Image Stabilization is nice.
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Don't know if you forgot any or not, but have you considered adding whether or not they have a set limit on how long a recorded video can be?
More info on all the models AVAILABLE IN THE USA (I am not interested in researching cameras I can't buy).

1. All of the listed cameras have videos with sound (some you can turn the sound off)

2. Movie limit: Olypum C-7000 limited to 20seconds at 640x480 at 30fps mode. Nikon 8700 limited to 35 seconds at VGA. Nikon 8800 limited to 60 seconds VGA. Minolta A200 limited to 15 minutes. Canon Powershot S1 IS limited to 1GB or one hour. Canon Powershot SD400 and SD500 limited to 1 GB in 640x480, 3 min at email size, and 1 min at 60 fps at 320x240. All other models just limited to the capacity of the storage medium. NOTE: Removed Minolta Z1 from list that is limited since bjohn said he could fill his high speed 512MB card at best mode.

3. White Balance: All models have auto and preset lighting settings. The following have custom white balance: Canon S1 IS, Canon SD200, Canon SD300, Canon SD400, Canon SD500, Casio EX-Z750, Casio Pro EX-P505, Contax SL300R T, Fuji S20 Pro, Fuji S5100, Fuji S7000, Fuji E550, Fuji F10, Fuji F810, Kyocera S5R, Minolta A200, Minolta Z10, Minolta Z2, Minolta Z3, Minolta Z5, Nikon 3700, Nikon 5200, Nikon 8400, Nikon 8700, Nikon 8800, Olympus C-770, Pentax 43WR, Pentax 750Z, Pentax Optio MX, Pentax Optio MX4, Rollei dr5, Samsung V50, Samsung V6, Sony DSC-F828 and Sony DSC-V3. The Sony DSC-P100 might have this (conflicting website info). PLUS MOST OF THE NEWER CAMERAS - NOT UNDATING ANYMORE.

4. Quite a few camera I couldn't find the information on whether or not they took add on lenses / filters or lense hood. Those cameras that do support them were: Canon S1 IS, Fuji S20 Pro, Fuji S5100, Fuji S7000, Kyocera M410R, Minolta A200, Minolta Z10, Minolta Z2, Minolta Z3, Minolta Z5, Nikon 8400, Nikon 8700, Nikon 8800, Pentax Optio MX, Pentax Optio MX4, Samsung V70, Sony DSC-F828, Sony DSC-P93, Sony DSC-P100, Sony DSC-P150, Sony DSC-P200, Sony DSC-V3 and Sony DSC-W1. Also found a Cokin devise you can use for filters that attaches to the camera using the tripod mounting threads, but the threads can't be excessively far away from the lense.

5. Auto Focus Assist Lamp info is just too limited right now. If you care about this check Steve's review conclusions for the camera - if it doesn't have one he will usually complain.

Tomorrow I plan on editing my original post camera weights. How it stands now some are weights with battery and card and some are without. I might even add a size class.

Editting note: Added Sony DSC-P93, Sony DSC-P100, Sony DSC-V3 and Sony DSC-W1 to list of cameras that take additional lenses and/or fiters.
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Fujifilm S20 Pro (6.2MP, len 35-210mm, SLR, 850 grams, $1,699-1,999)
I think you accidently looked up prices for the S2 Pro (a Fuji DSLR, which of course has no movie mode).

Because the S2 Pro is aSingle Lens ReflexCamera, it has a mirror blocking the optical path (which directs the image coming through the lens into the viewfinder until you take the photo, at which time it moves the mirror out of the way). So, a live feed for movies or driving displays won't work ina DSLR (Digital SLR). Also, the sensors used in DSLR models are not designed to be sampled atthe high rate required for movies or driving displays anyway, even if you used a different design for the mirror mechanisms (i.e., a semi-transparent mirror for directing the image from the lens to more than one area).

The Fuji S20 Pro (not a DSLR) is selling for under $800.00 and has the lens specs you are quoting (in 35mm equivalent),with a weightof 597 grams.

I noticed a number of models on your list are shown as SLR.None of these cameras are SLR's. They are simply "SLR Like". This is a marketing term (SLR Like) the manufacturers seem to be adopting.
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I think you accidently looked up prices for the S2 Pro (a Fuji DSLR, which of course has no movie mode)....

I noticed a number of models on your list are shown as SLR.**None of these cameras are SLR's.* They are simply "SLR Like".** This is a marketing term (SLR Like) the manufacturers seem to be adopting.
Noted and corrected. Avantage of having more eyes looking at my research.

I decided to break the cameras down by class size, then wide angle range, then megapixel. This is my own sort preference. I just wished more of the cameras started at 35mm or better range.
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Beverly,

I saw where you put question marks after the SLR when you quoted me. SLR stands for Single Lens Reflex. With this type of camera, a mirror is in the optical path, so what the lens is seeing is directed up to the optical viewfinder with the mirror. As a result, an SLR viewfinder is a true TTL (through the lens) viewfinder.

When the mirror moves out of the way and the shutter opens when taking a photo, the camera's sensor can see the image from the lens. This mirror movement is the "Reflex" part of Single Lens Reflex.

Most of the cameras you are seeing with longer zoom lenses use an Electronic Viewfinder (EVF) with a live feed from the camera's sensor. These models are sometimes referred to as "SLR Like", since the view the EVF gives you is coming from from what the sensor sees from the lens. Of course, what the EVF gives you is just a video feed, anddoes not match the quality you would get from a true Optical TTL viewfinder as found in an SLR.

But, the manufacturers are fond of referring to these cameras as "SLR Like" anyway.

A true DSLR (Digital SLR) is a quite different camera. In addition to the advantage of a true TTL Optical Viewfinder, they also use dramatically larger image sensors. Because of the larger photosites for each pixel, you get much lower noise levels, and the ability to shoot at much higher ISO speeds. Dynamic range is also better (the ability for the camera to record detail from both brighter and darker areas of an image).

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Beverly,

I saw where you put question marks after the SLR when you quoted me.*
I am not seeing any question marks. I did have some trouble getting the gray quote box and had to look at a different quote I had done to see how it was done.
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