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Old Sep 25, 2004, 8:13 AM   #1
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Hi,

Whats better, the D60 or the 300D?

As far as I can gather, the following are the differences:
- D60 has a more solid built than the 300D
- D60 lets you select metering modes
- 300D has 7-point focus while the D60 has 3-point focus
- Something about a DIGIC processor
- D60 writes faster to CF than 300D
- AF is better on 300D
- 300D's flash pops higher than the D60's

I am comparing these two because I can find them at the same price - a new 300D and a used D60 in good condition (at keh).

So what's a better choice?

Thanks,

Siddhartha
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Old Sep 25, 2004, 8:52 AM   #2
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Siddhartha:

I don't know a lot about either camera.

If it were me, I'd go with the new EOS-300D over a used D60, for a few reasons:

* Warranty. Do you know how many shutter actuations there are on the used D60?

* It's a newer model, and Image Processing algorithms havebeen refined.

* It's a newer sensor design with better image qualty (IMO). It's got lower noise levels, and also gives you ISO 1600 capability (the D60 was limited to a maximum ISO speed of 1000).

* It can use the newer EF-S lenses

* It has a much better playback mode (up to 10x magnification the image you took in your display).

* FAT32 support (for Card Capacities over 2GB).

These are a few differences (I'm sure there are more). On the downside, Canon did not give the EOS-300D some of the features in the EOS-10D (for example: Flash Exposure Compensation, ability to select metering and focus modes, Mirror Lockup).

But, you may or may not need these features.


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Old Sep 25, 2004, 9:07 AM   #3
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* Warranty. Do you know how many shutter actuations there are on the used D60?
Yep, I also read about that and its not very heartening.

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* It's a newer sensor design with better image qualty (IMO). It's got lower noise levels, and also gives you ISO 1600 capability (the D60 was limited to a maximum ISO speed of 1000).
IMHO, its the same 6.3MP CMOS sensor. No?

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* It can use the newer EF-S lenses
Heheh ... i see that more as a limitation of the lenses. The 18-55mm fits only the 300D so if you bought another body or a Canon film SLR it would be useless.

Anyways, I plan to get the Sigma 18-125mm as I don't want to lug around lenses with me. It seems to have gotten good reviews for its price on the forum.

Thanks for the info,

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* It's a newer sensor design with better image qualty (IMO). It's got lower noise levels, and also gives you ISO 1600 capability (the D60 was limited to a maximum ISO speed of 1000).
IMHO, its the same 6.3MP CMOS sensor. No?
No. Canon redesigned the sensor when they launced the EOS-10D. The EOS-300D/Digital rebel also uses the newer sensor (which is probably why it has lower noise levels).

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* It can use the newer EF-S lenses
Heheh ... i see that more as a limitation of the lenses. The 18-55mm fits only the 300D so if you bought another body or a Canon film SLR it would be useless.

Anyways, I plan to get the Sigma 18-125mm as I don't want to lug around lenses with me. It seems to have gotten good reviews for its price on the forum.
The new EOS-20D is also compatible with EF-S lenses, and chances are, any newer DSLR models with a crop factor introduced by Canonwill also use the newer mount. So, this would give you more options for lenses introduced by Canon in the future. They've already launched a couple:EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM, EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS.

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Old Sep 25, 2004, 9:47 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info, Jim. As I am reading more about the 300D I am more convinced that it is sufficient for my needs. I guess the used D60 can go to someone else

Btw, I found a good link for those who might lament lack of manually chosing metering and the AI on 300D.
http://revjim.net/item/9796/

Was useful for a newbie like me.

Cheers,

Siddhartha
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Old Jan 20, 2005, 1:38 AM   #6
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It's a hard choice. Yes the 300D acepts the new lenses, but I've never had a problem finding lenses for my D30. The 300D does have a bit less noise, but here are some other area's that the D60-D30's accell in:



Magnesium Alloy Body:

Fully Control AF and Metering Mode:

Continuous Mode: The D30 can take8 frames at 3 frames/sec, while the digital Rebel is limited to 4 frames at 2.5 frames/second.

Mirror Lock Up:

2nd Curtain Sync:Flash Photography:

For the money you'll spend on a new 300D, you could buy a pretty nice used 10D. I'd go that route myself.

Instead of the Sigma lense, have you looked at the Tokina AT-X 242 24-200mm? I currently have one and it's a fantastic lense. It's parafocal and seems to be well built. Great range too. With the 1.6 multiplyer it's effectivley a 38-320. Just my .02 cents
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