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Old Jan 15, 2005, 12:35 AM   #1
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Finally I narrowed itdown to 3 after reading tons of reviews. Basically I want a camera to do coverage for weddings. this is going to be most of the time an amateur thing...for friends and family, not going into the business. So I need the best of the best in my price range which it narrows it down to these 3. Canon is my last option since I've heard so much about the E18 error, I bet you guys have heard about.

Konica Minolta Z3

Fuji FinePix S5100

Canon PowerShot S1 IS


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Old Jan 15, 2005, 9:19 AM   #2
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Let me start off by saying that I'm pretty sure the E18 doesn't affect the S1 IS, it only affects the smaller canon lines. Also, it would be much more helpful if you gave us your actual price range, and then we can suggest camera's that you might have missed. Also, what is the maximum size you think you will print at? If it's larger than 8x10, and you intend to do major cropping, the S1 IS may have too little MP for you. Also, are movies important to you? The S1 IS is known for great movies, and if you don't intend to use that feature, it's a bit of a waste. However, with all that said, the S1 IS is a great camera and seems to be well liked by almost everyone who has one.

To make all things fair, I might as well attack your other two choices while I'm at it. I don't know near as much about the other two cameras you listed, but from just skimming reviews, the S5100 seems to have major vignetting problems. Also, the Z3's images need some serious touching up in photoshop (or the like).

If you can increase in price a bit, the F717 is probably worth a look. Also, seriously consider Panasonic's FZ line.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/s1is.html

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_...uji_s5100.html

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/z3.html

Best of luck with your search!~Jack
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Old Jan 15, 2005, 2:51 PM   #3
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Panasonic FZ3 and FZ20 are the best ultra-zooms if you don't care about video. They are better than any of the ones you listed...

In any case, do you really need zoom for weddings? Wouldn't you be better off with a low-zoom camera like Sony V3 or Canon G6?

Also, you might want one with flash hot-shoe so that you can add an external flash (not sure how badly you want this).
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Old Jan 15, 2005, 5:44 PM   #4
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Don't get the FZ3, if anything get the fz20. however, depending where you are that could be a significant increase in price.
Personally, I like the canon menu system alot. But thats due to having owned canon in the past. One thing I don't like about panasonics, is their menu system my panasonic camcoreder has a horrible menu system and I have to open the LCD to make any changes to it (sorry just ranting).

There are other little things like being able to turn OIS off with one button on S1 vs going through menu to sdo it.

Also, consider that the lcd of most of the cameras aswell as being a small 1.5" don't rotate. one thing I can tell you about wedding pics is often your hand is above your head trying to get a shot in the mass confusion. you definetly want a twist out Lcd for this purpose. I mean, its not like your gonna have the access the wedding photographer has. And AA batteries are a god send for ocasions like this where you'll be firing your flash to the wee hours of the night!

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Old Jan 17, 2005, 9:24 PM   #5
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Thanks for all the replies. First, the S1 IS has had the E18 problem, for just a sample you can read this review out of many with that same problen, here the link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-...Fencoding=UTF8

On the other hand video is important to me, that's why you didnt any panasonic on my list since the lack of high quality video. I really dont care about the super zoom. Anyhing with at least a 6x zoom would work.

The max budget is around $430.

I'm still looking around


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Old Jan 17, 2005, 10:52 PM   #6
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Do keep in mind that I could write a review like that for any camera I want right now. These reveiws are not trustworthy.

for instance the one linked to is:

"reviews Written by
HeavyElectronicsBuyer "Aaava" (Brighton, MA USA)"

Also, there is a review for the george forman grill right below it. That said, I always recommend and extended warrenty
for items like this anyway. Its well worth it, I work in QA, so I know all to well how crappy product can get out.

Also, I notice this guy says he used a lens converter and lenses with it the first day he got it. It's possible he did somethinhg that caused the lens to not protrude properly...


I must admit, My A70 died this way. not E18, but with a similar lens in/out problem. I bought an S1IS expecting that after 2yrs of watching there cameras die, canon learned something..I know the S1 uses USM, it should have better lens mech then the older stuff did...

P.S. I did google canon e18, and guess what? This thread was listed 6th from the top and was the only mention of S1IS w/e18..

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/arc...hp/t-1896.html
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Old Jan 17, 2005, 11:17 PM   #7
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thanks for your opinion. what you said it's true. Seems to be that the e18 error is not at common in the s1 as in the older models. I found two more with the same problem here though:

http://www.dcresource.com/forums/arc...hp/t-1445.html

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/s1...e18_error.html

Im still considering the S1 though, however it is scary how fragil (I guess) the lense is and that for a small mistake you are going to get the e18 forever.

Im also considering the fuji 5100 and the minolta z3.
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Old Jan 17, 2005, 11:33 PM   #8
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if you look at the two links in my last post, youll find the aaava is also in the forum link. that thread has many S1 users involved in the debate.

I know E18 exists and I'm sure it certainly possible for this error to appear on the S1IS. But, please consider the ratio of bad to good and how many of these cameras have sold..

check out this link here, interesting, there was a link to it in the canon forum just now, its right up the alley were in at the moment. Also, it's about minolta QA too.
http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...17&forum_id=20
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Old Jan 18, 2005, 12:28 AM   #9
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thanks for the link.

I found this and I want to know if this istrue. I really dont know that much about deep stuff but this is quite discouraging. thanks

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=11875924
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Old Jan 18, 2005, 12:56 AM   #10
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wow, don't know if its real or not, but I know just the thread to link this to find out quick.

keep an eye on this thread, I've been debating this camera for about a week now, I must admit thats the first i've read something negative like that about it. My main points so far have had to do with its lack of IS, but if this is true, then WOW I really have a gripe with it!

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...49&forum_id=87
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