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Old Jan 9, 2006, 8:41 AM   #11
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The Sony has a limited range and is limited in what it can do.

Within its limitations however you would need to spend $3000+ on a DSLR to get image quality as good.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/R1/R1A.HTM

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there's literally nothing on the market that can touch it for optical quality for less than $3,000 or so
So if you can live with its disadvantages it is a fantastic camera.

But it has a number of disadvantages compared to a DSLR as well as some advantages.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re.../sony-r1.shtml

They are really quite different types of camera, it all depends on the type of photography you want to pursue.
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Old Jan 9, 2006, 11:51 AM   #12
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I am in the camp of "not getting" what R1 is meant for. IMO what it does do is start to move the market to big sensor prosumer, which may be a good thing. But it does cost as much as a DSLR. IMO now you can get a entry level DSLR(mine, for example, a KM5D) for 599.95 with the kit, with the 400+ difference you can get a KM 28-75 f2.8. Which brings your total focal range to 27-112.5 in 35mm terms, with a f2.8 at full telephoto end(albeit the kit lens at 18 f3.5 is not that usable). And at this point if you find this combo to be limiting then you can upgrade what you have, instead of getting a new camera and start over.
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Old Jan 9, 2006, 12:14 PM   #13
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According to Sony the selling points of the R1is the image resolution, the live LCD view (no dSLR can offer that) and the fact that you need not worry about sensor dust and dirt because the lens is fixed. Let's not forget that Sony currently has no interchangeable lens SLR camera so it's astop-gap model for them.
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Old Jan 9, 2006, 1:09 PM   #14
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Here in Canada the Sony R1 costs about $1300 while an Olympus E500 DSLR with two Zuiko lenses (total focal length 28 - 300mm) can be had for around $1200, cheaper if you shop around. The R1's lens is only a 5x (24 - 120 mm). This is a no-brainer to me.
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Old Jan 9, 2006, 1:18 PM   #15
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Thx,

Okay, so basically I can buy two sufficient lens and the oly E500 to fit all my needs mentioned above with the price of R1?

But it sounds to me that the R1 has a better image sensor QQ?

And just curious, can I get I buy a Canon Rebel XT and its lenses with the same amount of money?~

If possible, plz tell me the lens model^^
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Old Jan 9, 2006, 2:21 PM   #16
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Canon does seem to be pricier anywhere you go.

Interesting point of note though, the sensor on the Oly is actually smaller than that of the R1, which probably just goes to show you the significance of the R1 with its APS-C sized sensor on a fix-lens prosumer.

IMO, if you are going to miss the prosumer feature such as the live LCD and video capability, then any DSLR is probably not for you. While sensor dust IMO is a much over blown issue and in the case of the Sony its a 2 fold issue. The fact it has no dust also means you have no lens interchangability to potentially upgrade your existing equipment down the road. At any rate though, when R1's price drop another 1-200 bucks then it'll start to make sense. Maybe with DSLR being so popular these days we can look forward to more prosumercamera with APS-C size sensor, then maybe people won't be recommanding DSLR all the time...

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Old Jan 9, 2006, 2:24 PM   #17
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I havnt used a OVF for a long time (all I hav r Point-n-Shoots), so I dun noe the real difference between them, but R1 doesnt offer videos anyway...
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Old Jan 9, 2006, 3:13 PM   #18
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TheE500 should more than meet your needs. I don't know the specific model numbers for the Zuiko lenses that come in the two-lens kit. They are14 - 45mm and40 - 150mm zoom lenses. The sensor size of the E500 imposes a 2x magnification factor, so the 35mm equivalent numbers are 28 - 90mm and 80- 300mm.

The Rebel XTis 50 to 100 bucks cheaper than the E500 kit, but only comes with one 28 - 90mm lens, or body-only at about 200 bucks less.

Before you actually buy, read as many reviews as you can, and go down to a camera shop and try out the cameras that interest you. I wouldn't want you to blame me for steering you in the wrong direction.

Here are a few reviews that may be helpful.

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ol...ew/index.shtml

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/so...ew/index.shtml

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca...ew/index.shtml

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/e500.html

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_...s/rebelxt.html

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/r1.html
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Old Jan 9, 2006, 4:08 PM   #19
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Why would I blame u XD

Ya I'll go try sum out wen I hav time

Thx for the comments everyone~^^
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Old Jan 9, 2006, 7:40 PM   #20
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I went try the Canon Rebel XT, Nikon 50D and the Olympus E500 and really like them. And with a 2 lens kit, they r not expensive (compared to R1's one fixed len)

function popup(file, width, height) { window.open(file, "large_img","resizable=yes,status=no,scrollbars=ye s,width=" + width + ",height=" + height + "") } The Rebel XT w/18-55 & 75-300 lens is $1400 CND; Oly E500 w/ 14-45mm zoom & 40-150mm zoom lens is $1249. Well, counting in tax...>"<

The R1 seems to be really boring... except for its live LCD view.
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