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1.- Sony Cyber-shot DSC-R1 3 27.27%
2.- Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ30 8 72.73%
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Old Jan 25, 2006, 8:35 PM   #1
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SONY Cybershot DSC-R1 : 10 MP , 5x Optical Zoom, no Image stabilization, no video, lens Carl-Zeiss.

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ30 : 8MP, 12X Optical Zoom, yes Image stabilization, yes video, lens Leica.

Sony price is about $150 more...butit makes not big diferent for me...

I cannot make up my mind because I like 10 MP, but I also like 12X Optical zoom and Image stabilization...I have no idea about wich lens is better. Right now I am using the sony cybershot DSC-150, 7.2 MP It works great but I want a better one ...

I cannot tell the diferent with the STEVE sample pictures they all look great :?

Please tell me wich camera has better QUALITY , I can use the DSC-150 for video ...
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Old Jan 25, 2006, 8:48 PM   #2
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You have to ask yourself how important are the following issues:

*The ability to take video clips

*having a lot more optical zoom, such as 10X to 12X, instead of 5X

* the ability to use the camera at eye level

*you need no more than 8mp of resolution

An ultra zoom will give you those advantages.

Instead, if these issues are more important

*10mp of resolution

* a higher quality lens than any ultra zoom can provide

* the ability to use a waist level LCD viewfinder

* photos with a quality level much higher than an ultra zoom

Then the Sony R-1 is your choice. You are going to have to set some priorities, to determine your selection, I think.

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Old Jan 25, 2006, 9:58 PM   #3
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There are 2 more thingsthat FZ30 doesn't have,high ISO and wide angle 24mm.
FZ30 max ISO: 400 (too high noise)
R1: max ISO 3200.
But if you generally shooting outdoor with low ISO, I think FZ30 maybe a good for consideration.
For megapixel, I think 8MP and 10MP not too much different, but what make the different is the sensor size, FZ30 CCD size: 7.18 x 5.32mm while R1: CMOS size: 21.5 x 14.4mm, bigger sensor generally will produce better quality.
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i think mtclimber hit the points exactly..

resolution is not a factor..

what is more important between these models is your intended use..

if wildlife and other such things where a long zoom is imperitive.. then it does not matter how big of a sensor the sony has, it simply will not reach..

but, if architecture/landcape or low light people shots are more like what you do, then the sony with its bigger sensore (less noise, smoother skies,etc) is an advantage, as is the 24mm focal length on the wide end..

both are GREAT cameras.. and are real photographic tools.. but they are each tools with purposes.. pick the right tool for you..

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Old Jan 26, 2006, 1:36 AM   #5
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Thank's a lot about all of your helpful advices
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Old Jan 26, 2006, 5:22 AM   #6
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In this case R1's lack of IS isn't such disadvantage because of it's much higher ISO capability, also long tele is where IS helps most.


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if wildlife and other such things where a long zoom is imperitive..
It ain't the zoom but focal length, both 10-100mm and 100-1000mm are 10x zooms.

For architechture and landscapes difference between these cameras is equally big as in wild animal/bird photography. Despite of bigger zoom number FZ30 would be much worse in those, its wide angle field of view is well over one fourth narrower and lower than R1s.
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With 10mp, you'll be able to crop a fair bit too. That would have to increase the focal length to some degree.
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With 10mp, you'll be able to crop a fair bit too. That would have to increase the focal length to some degree.
Not really possible, unless you happen to have some of those SLRs with tens of megapixels.

To get equal results by cropping as doubling optical zoom say, from 100mm to 200mm (or from 200mm to 400mm) you would have to have FOUR times as much pixels in starting image.
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The Sony R-1 offers some very distinct advantages that have to be considered. No, it is neither the perfect all around camera nor does it offer interchangeable lenses.

IMHO you have to determine your real priorities. Only when you have established what factors are truly important to you will you be able to logically approach this decision. Please just understand that while the R-1 is an outstanding camera, it is not an all purpose camera. You have to accept those limitations.

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E.T wrote:
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In this case R1's lack of IS isn't such disadvantage because of it's much higher ISO capability, also long tele is where IS helps most.


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if wildlife and other such things where a long zoom is imperitive..
It ain't the zoom but focal length, both 10-100mm and 100-1000mm are 10x zooms.
i hope you were clearing that up for him and not me.. hehe.. i simply used zoom to keep the terminology to a minimum.. :lol:
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