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Old Jun 11, 2006, 5:52 AM   #1
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Hi everyone :bye:

I'm planning on moving over to the UK to live and want to buy a camera. I've never bought a digital camera before so thats why I have come here to seek knowledge.

I'm trying to decide between the Canon S3IS and the Canon IXUS 65. I know they are both completely different but thats what I've cut the field down to.

I'm trying to decide which camera will benefit me more for my move. I plan to go to lots of soccer matches and that is where I will be taking most of my pictures. I would like to be able to zoom in and get good pictures of the players. I'm a little concerned I wouldnt be able to do that with the IXUS. I would love to be able to take photo's similar to this ( http://www.zdl.com.br/galeria/3767_adriano2.jpg ). I know this is a proffesional picture and its extrememly clear, I dont expect to be able to take pictures as good as that, but I would

like to be able to get that close a shot from the stands. Where I would be sitting would be approximately 50 meters from the players, I havent been to a soccer game before so thats just an estimate.

I would also like to take snaps of friends I meet at pubs and stuff like that as well though. And the size of the ISUX would be of great benefit here. I could just slip it in my pocket and carry it around where ever I go. With the powershot I would have to carry around a camera bag and that could be a problem I think. I wouldnt want to bring the camera everytime I went to a pub but would like to occasionally.

So I have myself in a bad situation. I dont know much about camera's so that doesnt help much either. I know that the powershot is 12x and the IXUS is 4x or something. I know 12x is a lot better than 4x but only because the number is a lot bigger! I just want to be able to basically zoom in and get a snap of a player and take it home and transfer it to my computer. I dont want to be a proffesional photographer but I want to be able to take a good quality photo of a player, one I could look back at in the future and clearly see who it was, not just some blurry face. I've had no experiences with cameras so I wouldnt really know the difference between a 12x and a 4x other than the obvious. If I can do everything I explained with the IXUS than I will definitely buy that as it benefits me in every other area. So I'm basically writing just to find out how the ISUX would go at taking photos of players at a soccer match, thats what it comes down to!

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

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Luke

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Old Jun 11, 2006, 1:10 PM   #2
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The IXUS does NOT have the zoom range that you will need for the soccer pics. Take a look at the Panasonic TZ1. It has the zoom range of the S3IS, but it's still small enough to slip into a pocket.
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 1:56 PM   #3
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I know that the powershot is 12x and the IXUS is 4x or something. I know 12x is a lot better than 4x but only because the number is a lot bigger!
You're barking wrong numbers, it's the focal length which is important, not ratio of longest and shortest focal length. As example there's many smaller "zoom" cameras which have much better wide angle and so better suited for landscapes and architecture than these so called 10/12x "super"zooms.
In your case what is needed is long focal lengths which "magnify" distant targets, normal pocket cameras don't have long enough focal length of tele for that. These "super" zooms are again bulky and have protruding lens assembly.

Panasonic TZ1 is about only one camera which has long focal length tele and can be also considered as pocket sized camera.
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After looking at the TZ1 I am very impressed, thanks for the recommendation.

I notice that it can do 12x at 3MP which seems pretty good for what I want.

For an amature photographer like myself would there be much difference taking photos at a soccer match with a S3IS 12xand the TZ1 10x?
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Old Jun 12, 2006, 2:29 AM   #5
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lukepingi wrote:
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I notice that it can do 12x at 3MP which seems pretty good for what I want.
Forget that "crop zoom" BS of Panasonic, it's plain fraud, same as "digital zoom" and won't bring any new details.
With that thinking I could take 3x2 pixel size from center of image and blow it 3000x2000 size picture made from 1000x1000 pixel size cinderblock and claim it as 1000x zoom... or in case of Panasonic just leave it to size of 3x2 pixel and claim same.

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Difference between TZ1 and S3 isn't as big as you think,
for "doubling magnification" focal length has to be doubled so difference between 350mm and ~430mm isn't much.
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