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Old Jun 12, 2006, 1:11 AM   #1
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lookin for a small, non-slr, digital camera that has raw capabilities, at least iso 800, with a decent zoom range. Something like the finepix e900 but with picture quality like the ricoh gr.

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Old Jun 12, 2006, 3:52 AM   #2
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Hello,

the RICOH GRis a lovable camera (without zoom...) !!!!! I recommend it.

http://ricoh-grd.blogspot.com/


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well

lets say that i take a picture (at the fake 28mm) and crop it in such a way that the new picture is half the size of the old one (thus being 56mm) i wont lose too much detail will i?

my rationale is that the new 56mm "zoomed" picture will still be good because it is still 4mp...right?
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If you crop your picture the way you said, you will end up with a 2mp picture...

It should be ok for 4x6 prints!
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Old Jun 13, 2006, 8:57 AM   #5
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lets say that i take a picture (at the fake 28mm) and crop it in such a way that the new picture is half the size of the old one (thus being 56mm) i wont lose too much detail will i?

my rationale is that the new 56mm "zoomed" picture will still be good because it is still 4mp...right?
It does have a 4x Digital Zoom. But, that's just cropping the photo to make it look like more optical zoom is being used, then enlarging it again. You may be just as well off by cropping, depending on the sophistication of the algorithms the camera is using for enlarging. By cropping versus using digital zoom, you could enlarge it only as much as needed for the desiged print or viewing size later with a PC.

Because resolution is computed by multiplying width x height (like area), If you crop a photo to look like you used twice as much optical zoom, you only end up with 1/4 the original resolution (around 2 Megapixels with this model).

If you crop a photo to make it look like you used 4x as much optical zoom, you end up with only 1/8 the resolution (or around 1 Megapixel with this 8MP Ricoh model).

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cool. thanks guys.

is there anyplace i can find a list of cameras with raw?
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cool. thanks guys.

is there anyplace i can find a list of cameras with raw?
Hmmmm

Check David Coffin's website for dcraw.c

If a camera shoots in raw, it's probably in David's list of supported cameras. Note that some models even have a hidden raw mode (and he supports some of these cameras, too). You'll also want to make sure the software you use can support a camera choice (if you prefer using one software package over another for the raw conversion).

David's software supports most any camera that can shoot in raw.

The biggest problem with most non-DSLR models is that cycle times between photos can be very long shooting in raw (due to larger file sizes, limited internal buffer space in many of these cameras, and slow write time to memory cards).

So, if speed of operation is a concern, I'd suggest making sure you read a camera's Review Conclusion Section here. The Conclusion section talks about things like speed of operation (and usually specifies cycle times between photos in different modes). It will be the last page before the sample images in each model's review here.

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