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Old Aug 29, 2007, 10:09 AM   #1
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Bambie Look-a-like

Wild Free Ranging

It two trips to finally get a keeper of this late fawn. IMHO it was worth the time he is a real CUTIE. If I had got him the first afternoon I wouldn't of gotten to go back the 2nd afternoon. Extra time out in the woods is a GOOOOD thing.

No question their legs and ears seem to grow the fastest.



They are always pretty close to mom.



The best one word description I can think of is CURIOUS










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Old Aug 29, 2007, 10:53 AM   #2
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too cute! so did this group of deer stay in the general area or how did you manage to find them a second time? what's your tracking technique?

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Old Aug 29, 2007, 11:41 AM   #3
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too cute! so did this group of deer stay in the general area or how did you manage to find them a second time? what's your tracking technique?

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How I find them

The first thing I always do when checking out a area that is new or that I don't already know pretty well is find some high spots and go to work with my binoculars & then my spotting scope. I have found the best time is about daylight and then again about dark. What I am trying to do is pattern them. Once I THINK I have a pattern figured out I start tying to pick a good spot for my ambush using my binoculars again. Over the years I have found that if you do not disturb wildlife they will pretty much stay in the area they have chosen until it is time to move to another area for water, food, shelter or weather.

Normally I do 2 or 3 trips to the same spotting area before I try to ambush them. To a lot of folks this probably seems like a lot of wasted time but for me it is the most important part of getting a keeper photograph. Knowing what you subject is likely to do and when he or she is likely to do it is IMHO is probably the most important thing about getting a keeper wildlife photo. The real big bonus is you get to be out in the woods and that is a good thing even on the days you don't see anything and I do have those see nothing days.

This is what I do and what I think no more or no less. I am not trying to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do. I am sure a lot of you have different techniques that work well for you and when it comes to getting photos everyone should do what works best for them.

Bottom line IMHO is:

1. Spend the time to understand your subject

2. Good binoculars and a good spotting scope are more important than your camera.

3. When you do move in for your ambush, move as slow as you can and only move when the subject is not looking in your direction. Once you have moving real slow learned cut that spend in half. In the dark timber I never take more than two steps before I stop and glass from standing, 1/2 way down and then on my knees.


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You don't have to. The results speak for themselves
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great tips wacky roger. thanks for taking the time to post them.

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Slow enough to stalk wildlife.

How to learn what is slow enough.

Here is how I taught myself to move slowly in the woods. If you will practice this in different terain you will soon realize what slow is or end up with broken bones.


Once you have some thing spotted and it is time to try and get a little closer and the wind is correct.

raise your binoculars and just before you put them to your eyes look at the next 10 yards or so then put them to your eyes and take a slow step. Your will find you are feeling with your foot where to put it down. Keep your binoculars on the animals head area and if he moves his eyes, ears or nose stop until they are again still and not towards you.

Some of you guys may laugh at this idea but a gunny sack SKIRT that hangs down to the ground is also very helpful if you have to cross open areas. Animals will notice your legs moving first if the wind is correct for a stalk.

I have been thinking about doing a how to find and stalk post as soon as my busy season is over if there is any interest in it. My concern is there is no way new folks to the forum would ever know it was available after a couple of days.


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My concern is there is no way new folks to the forum would ever know it was available after a couple of days.
A while after the comments cease, you have to find ways to bump it to the top - adding comments of your own, pictures, etc., or mentioning it (with the link) in other appropriate laterthreads so others will comment andboost it up. Some of yours have had a life much longer than a couple of days.

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My concern is there is no way new folks to the forum would ever know it was available after a couple of days.
A while after the comments cease, you have to find ways to bump it to the top - adding comments of your own, pictures, etc., or mentioning it (with the link) in other appropriate laterthreads so others will comment andboost it up. Some of yours have had a life much longer than a couple of days.
I think your idea would work. My only concern is if the thread showed up every month or so would Steve get upset and maybe even delete it. My thinking is some of the folks that come to a wildlife forum might appriciate some new ideas on how to get in position to get a few keepers.

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well i'm definitely interesting in learning more about stalking wildlife. you mentioned "if the wind is correct." could you elaborate that a bit more? are you saying that you ideally you want the wind blowing from the animal towards you to reduce your smell and sound?

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well i'm definitely interesting in learning more about stalking wildlife. you mentioned "if the wind is correct." could you elaborate that a bit more? are you saying that you ideally you want the wind blowing from the animal towards you to reduce your smell and sound?

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I might choose wind as my 2nd priority right after my binoculars and spotting scope. If you are setting up a ambush or if you are trying to get closer wind can be your best friend or your worst enemy.

If you have wind in your face ( going from the animal towards you ) this is the best you can ask for. Wind any direction other than from you towards the animal is your 2nd best choice.

One thing to remember about wind is if it is heavy or strong wind you are going to have a problem no matter which way it is blowing. Strong wind make most wildlife very nervous and they are much more alert. It causes strange sounds so they are using their senses much more. If you can find some animals to watch for a few days and you get a day with strong or gusting winds you will notice they are very nervous and don't even keep their head down to eat but for very short times. They also will try to find a place to eat or etc. where the terrain helps them to be out of the wind. On a very windy day the same animals may stop at a different place to eat if this location keeps them out of the wind.

I have found this to be true with eagles and other birds not just 4 legged animals. They are just uncomfortable in strong wind.

If you will watch the weather in your area you will see fronts going thru and you can take advantage of the winds they cause. If the normal wind is from the west like it is here and you need it from the east to get where you want wait until the front is passing by and your wind will change the direction it is coming from. I think the weather folks call it the wrap around.

Watching the weather also will tell you what days wildlife will be coming out early or staying late to eat. This is especially true in the winter.


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