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Old Feb 20, 2008, 10:39 AM   #1
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RAW vs JPG Ravens

Since I have been having so much trouble getting IMHO a good raven shot I decided it was time to try and learn RAW. Yesterday and today were my first tries at using RAW. Other people have told me Ravens are real hard to get and I agree, so I figured Ravens would be a good way to learn RAW.






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To compare my best JPG before I tried RAW.



So far it seems like with RAW I get more detail but as a JPG I get more Pop. This is no kind of controlled test just two different days out in the field and I have no idea what I am doing in Lightroom.


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third one is favorite tooo
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Hi Roger,

RAW is probably the best way to go to get as much detail as possible. There is a fine line when drawing out the detail in dark subjects as to when you start losing the "pop" you mentioned. I toned down the mid range tones (middle slider in levels) on this one shot which caused it to lose some of the detail, but brought back some of the "pop."
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I went back and added some black to the 3rd one and now it is my favorite.





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RAW is probably the best way to go to get as much detail as possible. There is a fine line when drawing out the detail in dark subjects as to when you start losing the "pop" you mentioned. I toned down the mid range tones (middle slider in levels) on this one shot which caused it to lose some of the detail, but brought back some of the "pop."
Thanks, I am going to get it figured out.


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Old Feb 21, 2008, 9:25 PM   #6
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So far it seems like with RAW I get more detail but as a JPG I get more Pop.
Hi Roger, I agree with your above statement. I like detail, for sure, but sometimes when too much detail exists the shot begins to appear unnatural to the naked eye. Might be great if one wishes to count the feathers but perhaps a bit of natural contrast helps "pop" the shots from time to time.

In any event, experimenting will never be a bad thing, good luck and hope you find the sweet spot that you're looking for with these very difficult subjects to meter :?
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So far it seems like with RAW I get more detail but as a JPG I get more Pop.
Hi Roger, I agree with your above statement. I like detail, for sure, but sometimes when too much detail exists the shot begins to appear unnatural to the naked eye. Might be great if one wishes to count the feathers but perhaps a bit of natural contrast helps "pop" the shots from time to time.

In any event, experimenting will never be a bad thing, good luck and hope you find the sweet spot that you're looking for with these very difficult subjects to meter :?
Thanks Normcar, I am figuring with enough proactice I can end up in the middle or somewhere close.



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Sold me, guess I'll start working with RAW now after seeing your shots done in RAW, lot of detail in every shot.
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