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Old Sep 30, 2009, 3:42 PM   #11
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Get out the Ketchup! Some sparrows are so highly variable geographically, that the field guides can't show all the races. There are some very dark sparrows from the northwestern parts of North America, including both Song and Fox sparrows, and Fox sparrows I don't recall seeing with this kind of head striping. My first impression was Song, like that of the others, and I will stick with that. I wouldn't necessarily expect a northeasterner to recognize these darker Western races.
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Get out the Ketchup! Some sparrows are so highly variable geographically, that the field guides can't show all the races. There are some very dark sparrows from the northwestern parts of North America, including both Song and Fox sparrows, and Fox sparrows I don't recall seeing with this kind of head striping. My first impression was Song, like that of the others, and I will stick with that. I wouldn't necessarily expect a northeasterner to recognize these darker Western races.
Turns out you guys are ALL worng. It's a Mongolian Red Eagle...

Anyone buy that?

Ok, ok, anyone want to share my Crow? Err, perhaps take all of it? It's already marinating in Number two fuel oil, to take away the bitter taste.

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fox sparrows look much like song sparrows, but have mostly yellow beaks, more gray in their plumage, and don't usually have the head stripes or the darker spot on the breast...




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um... sorry, Don... didn't mean to hijack your thread!
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um... sorry, Don... didn't mean to hijack your thread!
No problem Rocky. Now that's a Fox Sparrow. You can tell by the inverted "v" markings on the breast...cheers...Don
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Ok, I just started a thread on Bird Forum, within a few hours we shall get a definitie I.D. Please have the Crow and Ketchup handy...

Equal parts of Crow and Ketchup are very delicious, and I should know.

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Hey Dave,

How's that Crow going down? Try a little HP sauce. It works wonders too.

I checked out the forum you mentioned, and they agreed with others here. Most of the time I see these little buggers, and I'm not sure either. The only one I'm really sure about is the Fox Sparrow (like the shots Rocky posted).

Have a great day Dave, and thanks for your interest. It's good to know others enjoy this birding stuff as much as I do....cheers...Don
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Now that's a Fox Sparrow. You can tell by the inverted "v" markings on the breast...
Some of the darker ones can look streaked:

http://www.artfullbirds.com/Fox%20Sparrow.jpg

And a great many show the central spot, too:

http://www.pgmagallanes.com/newbirds...ox_Sparrow.jpg

Never say "never" about a sparrow! They can be great foolers

Fox sparrows currently are divided into as many as 20 subspecies constituting four groups:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate-colored_Fox_Sparrow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thick-billed_Fox_Sparrow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sooty_Fox_Sparrow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Fox_Sparrow

And Song Sparrows are divided into 25 subspecies in five groups!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_sparrow

It's enough to drive anyone nuts!
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Hey Dave,

How's that Crow going down? Try a little HP sauce. It works wonders too.

I checked out the forum you mentioned, and they agreed with others here. Most of the time I see these little buggers, and I'm not sure either. The only one I'm really sure about is the Fox Sparrow (like the shots Rocky posted).

Have a great day Dave, and thanks for your interest. It's good to know others enjoy this birding stuff as much as I do....cheers...Don
Bird forum has some of the formost experts in the world. Thus, my delicious meal...

Normally, there would be three of four guys confirming, or in some cases (lousy shots or descriptions) arguing about an identity. In this case only one commented, which to my mind means - No Brainer. Truly a terrible indictment of my i.d....

Dave

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