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theproff Oct 23, 2005 8:47 AM

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I have a photo of my teenage daughter when she was 13, unfortunately she was a victim of teenage spots.

I have tried myself to get rid of these in Photoshop Elements 4, comments would be appreciated, as would any improvements.



the first photo is the original

theproff Oct 23, 2005 8:49 AM

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this one is my fix

TD Cole Oct 23, 2005 3:01 PM

Here are my two feeble attempts but had trouble with the bright spot on her forehead...
Just added a correction layer and used a simple program called Makeup Pilot to remove blemishes. She's a beautiful young lady:-)


theproff Oct 23, 2005 3:31 PM

This is a BIG WOW, what a beautiful job you have done to this Wagaboo, thanks very much.

a utility I MUST have, is this a plug-in to Photoshop?


Stevekin Oct 23, 2005 4:12 PM

Using CS2, same as Wagaboo ( nice edits Wag !!), but you can do it with Elements4 as well.

First I corrected the levels, which brings out the shiny bits a bit more :roll:.

To get rid of the spots, I used the Spot Healing Brush, no pun intended. Oh alright, just a little one :-). Moving to the Healing brush when the Spot one couldn't cope.

Next click on Create new layer and set the mode of the layer to Darken. Take the eyedropper tool and click on some 'clean' skin next to the bright areas, then get the brush and set the opacity of the brush to around 15/20 per cent.

This allows you to build up the effect as you go. Paint the bright areas, sampling other areas of 'clean' skin nearby as you go, to help it blend in better.

You will see thatsetting the blend mode to darken means that the effect will only be applied to areas that are lighter than the sample point.

Flatten the image when done and press Ctrl + J on the keyboard to duplicate the layer. Now apply a Gaussian Blur of .8 pixels to soften the whole image slightly and take the eraser and very carefully erase the blur from the eyes and mouth.

You can further enhance the sharpness of the eyes if you wish by selecting the eyes and mouth, feather the selection by 5 pixels and apply Unsharp Mask at a setting of, Amount- 50 to 70 percent and a radius of 1.5 pixels.

theproff Oct 23, 2005 4:22 PM

Nice job Stevekin, a lot of helpful tips on using the tools in PS.

I did use a few of those to get my edited version.

thanks for your help


VTphotog Oct 23, 2005 8:29 PM

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I see I'm a bit late in replying again, but here is my attempt, using PSE 3. I find the shadow/highlights tool is a good place to start. I increased shadow about 35%, darkend highlights 5%, and increased midtone contrast 25%. Used healing brush to clean up skin tones. Hue/saturation used- increased saturation overall +10 and red channel saturation an additional 4, green sat +5.

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"brian

theproff Oct 24, 2005 12:50 AM

Nice job, VT, thanks for the tips, I will give that a go with the settings you have suggested.

All new experience for me, being a reletive newbie to photography.



dragondad Oct 24, 2005 6:44 AM

I still like your fix better, theproff. It was well done.

theproff Oct 24, 2005 7:03 AM

Thanks for that, DragonDad, Appreciated, it took over an hour to do it.


creeduk Oct 24, 2005 8:36 AM

Proff you did a great job, yes you could work on the hotspots but they are not really that bad, you cleaned the skin up well and it has the most natural result of all the edits so I think you are on the right path, well done a great job. I think it helps when you know the subject well as you are less willing to remove too much which is a GOOD thing.

theproff Oct 24, 2005 9:11 AM

Thanks for that Creeduk, I was wondering where you were.........


VAtechtigger Oct 24, 2005 10:00 AM

yeah, I would stick with your origianl edit. All the others are too overdone, soft and dreamy. good job.

Stevekin Oct 24, 2005 10:08 AM

VAtechtigger wrote:

yeah, I would stick with your origianl edit. All the others are too overdone, soft and dreamy. good job.

The skin does look more natural and there is something in what creeduk says about the relationship between the photographer and the subject.

But it's fun to try different things and thank you for the opportunity 8).

theproff Oct 24, 2005 10:35 AM

Thanks to everyone for there comments and tips on this shot, I agree the one I done is a little more realistic, but all I learnt was from this forum, so gratitude goes to you all.

I had reason to spend so much time on it....

but the tips and tricks from you ppl are invaluable.

I asked my daughter which one she prefers, she said both the ones done by Wagaboo. which is a brilliant effect, Teenagers eh...... so naive.



creeduk Oct 24, 2005 1:13 PM

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But if I was to edit....

I took a little more of the hot spots out, and tried to do some of the things your Daughter might like. Also a little DOF.

theproff Oct 24, 2005 1:21 PM

Nice job, Creeduk, better colour than mine certainly, more natural appearance for sure.



Stevekin Oct 24, 2005 3:19 PM

In the interest of a more realistic result, I'm not bitter :mad:, how about this one after a bit of Sun ;);):G

theproff Oct 24, 2005 4:44 PM

Hi Stevekin, I hope no-one has got me wrong here, you have ALL done excellent jobs with my daughter, and she is so pleased with the results. as am I

some of them though do look more realistic than others, I love the touches done by wagaboo, so smooth. and Jane thinks its the best, god bless her............. teenages eh!

thanks again to ALL, brilliant jobs all round, and i have learnt so much from your tips.


Stevekin Oct 25, 2005 2:57 AM

Tony, just my way of saying Grrr to Wagaboo for producing the favourable results. I'm only leg pulling, hence the two winks and a big grin :G.

His two edits have Glammed your daughter very well and we know teenagers like to Glam up occasionally :roll:.

It was great to have a willing (??) subject to work on :cool:.


theproff Oct 25, 2005 11:35 AM

it's been an interesting post, and my daughter has had fame at last, she is loving it.

thanks to all of you, I have another 3 daughters........................ hehe.:lol:

creeduk Oct 25, 2005 6:49 PM

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Well I have been doing a few make up make overs and I thought as I had this image on my disk I would givethe image the once over in the virtual make up chair. Did various tweaks not just make up.

theproff Oct 25, 2005 7:33 PM

nice one creeduk, you've done a good job there,well done, I will show Jane it tomorrow as it's 01:30am now and she is getting her beauty sleep.

PS. I hope you will all do the same to my other daughters mind, they do get rather jealous of each other....... lol

thanks for your time


Widowmaker Oct 27, 2005 1:26 PM

One thing you can try to cut back on your edit time is diffuse the light to begin with. This lighting looks very direct. If your using a shoe mounted flash bounce it. If you are using a pop up flash let someone hold a coffee filter up in front of the flash. That alone should soften the lighting and really give you better results from the start.

theproff Oct 27, 2005 2:15 PM

Thanks for that tip widowmaker, i will try that.


TD Cole Oct 27, 2005 2:59 PM

Stevekin wrote:

Tony, just my way of saying Grrr to Wagaboo for producing the favourable results. I'm only leg pulling, hence the two winks and a big grin :G.

His two edits have Glammed your daughter very well and we know teenagers like to Glam up occasionally :roll:.

It was great to have a willing (??) subject to work on :cool:.

Lol... Steve, as we all know it's in good fun and its nice like you said to have a willing subject. Hey I'm not so old as to know what the ladies like I did that for my 13 year old step daughter and she loved it then I did a halloween edit morph and now I am now known as Butt-head again :mad: lol

PS and Hey !!!! The proff has 3 more daughters ??? hmmm we gotta start charging this fella and soon!......J/k Theproff we all enjoy the learning experience you are letting us aquire.:cool:

theproff Oct 27, 2005 3:09 PM

I think if you morphed my daughters into a halloween subject they might just call you more than 'butt-head', so think yourself 'lucky'... lol :lol:

Learn away wagaboo!!

VTphotog Oct 31, 2005 11:55 PM

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I managed to get back on line after several days of no power due to early snowstorm. I don't think I was quite the last to have power restored, but there were probably only a couple places that took longer.

I had done another edit, after seeing that others were going a bit further with the glamour portrait look. I actually used the 'glamour' setting in my Virtual Photographer plugin, with the slider set down a bit from default. Then used the saturation brush to bring up the color in the lips and cheeks. And that's all. Just used the colors and tones that were already there, but enhanced a bit.

Now that I'm back, I'll have to try the photo of your other daughter, just to be fair.


theproff Nov 1, 2005 12:42 AM

Hi Brian, pleased to hear you have power restored, last time I had power-cut was in the 70's when strikes were at there peak. good old days......

your edit is excellent, worth the wait... very natural.



lzorglubl Feb 8, 2006 2:08 PM

It's the first time I do this... I think I might have overdone it.

theproff Feb 8, 2006 2:16 PM

Izor... i have seen lots of different versions of this and my other posts, you have done a good job of it believe me, my daughter wishes she actually was that colour, she thinks she is like a milk bottle.

thanks for your post and effort


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